Taipan Taipan Slash first tuning report.

[darknes]

huben k1 is also $600 CHEAPER

Now that I write this from an airguns service point of view the huben is very malfunctioning and a big problem to get any spare parts. Whereas on taipan I have no problems getting any parts from the manufacturer, and their airguns are very easy to repair.

 

[MACTEN]

It is also 600x more difficult to service it in case something needs to be repaired. My 2 cts

Yes and I have had both the Huben and Slash apart. It's no comparison when it comes to serviceability. This said, I'm still a Huben fan but there is a reason this one costs more. The build quality of the Slash is unmatched so far.

 

[Pale_Rider]

It is also 600x more difficult to service it in case something needs to be repaired. My 2 cts

This must be a joke.

In order to service the valve on the slash you must remove 13 screws, rear bottom plate, air tank, trigger plate cover, and the magazine latch.

To service the valve on the k1 only requires the removal of 2 screws, rear cover plate, and a spring. The valve is removed during the degassing process. No other airgun is capable of this feature.

Both guns use specialized tooling to service certain parts.

Quality of after sale support is dependent on country. In America we can easily get parts and great service for the K1.

As far as build quality, I give a slight nod to the Slash. The chassis looks to be more solid than the k1. The trigger linkage has a better design. Taipan had a lot of practice with Bullpup triggers so no surprise there. Both guns are amazing but to say the K1 is more difficult to service is.. false.

 

[SigG]

This must be a joke.

In order to service the valve on the slash you must remove 13 screws, rear bottom plate, air tank, trigger plate cover, and the magazine latch.

To service the valve on the k1 only requires the removal of 2 screws, rear cover plate, and a spring. The valve is removed during the degassing process. No other airgun is capable of this feature.

Both guns use specialized tooling to service certain parts.

Quality of after sale support is dependent on country. In America we can easily get parts and great service for the K1.

As far as build quality, I give a slight nod to the Slash. The chassis looks to be more solid than the k1. The trigger linkage has a better design. Taipan had a lot of practice with Bullpup triggers so no surprise there. Both guns are amazing but to say the K1 is more difficult to service is.. false.

I know you know Hubens in and out. But for the average Joe (…and me) who know just how to replace a regulator or an O-ring, a Huben is not serviceable without specialised tooling.
(For those interested go eg. check G. Kamensek’s excellent YT video on replacing a front valve seal…)

As for the Slash, i think you can go loooong way with just Allen Keys … but admittedly i have not opened it up to the very last screw yet.

 

[Pale_Rider]

I know you know Hubens in and out. But for the average Joe (…and me) who know just how to replace a regulator or an O-ring, a Huben is not serviceable without specialised tooling.
(For those interested go eg. check G. Kamensek’s excellent YT video on replacing a front valve seal…)

As for the Slash, i think you can go loooong way with just Allen Keys … but admittedly i have not opened it up to the very last screw yet.

The Slash requires a specialized tool to service the regulator and smooth jaw pliers to remove the valve stem. Good thing they include the special reg tool whereas for the k1 you have to buy it. That valve o-ring is rarely the source of a leak on the k-1. Never had to replace mine in 5 years. Besides that valve o-ring, the k1 is really not that bad to service. Much easier than other high end rifles I’ve worked on.

 

[daigo]

It is also 600x more difficult to service it in case something needs to be repaired. My 2 cts

ACTUALLY THATS WRONG NOWE THERE IS PLENTY OF VIDEOS SHOWS DIY AND THANK GOD NOW WE CAN DO OUR OWN AND SURE BEFORE THAT WAS THE CASE I GET IT

 

[daigo]

I know you know Hubens in and out. But for the average Joe (…and me) who know just how to replace a regulator or an O-ring, a Huben is not serviceable without specialised tooling.
(For those interested go eg. check G. Kamensek’s excellent YT video on replacing a front valve seal…)

As for the Slash, i think you can go loooong way with just Allen Keys … but admittedly i have not opened it up to the very last screw yet.

AT THE END YOU GET WHAT YOU PAY FOR ITS THAT SIMPLE

 

[bernieorosz]

You guys see any issues leaving the Slash metal magazines pre-loaded with pellets for weeks/month/etc?

I have three mags, and want to keep one pre-loaded at all times.... just in case....

EDIT: I forgot to say.. pre-loaded but not in the gun.

 

[MACTEN]

You guys see any issues leaving the Slash metal magazines pre-loaded with pellets for weeks/month/etc?

I have three mags, and want to keep one pre-loaded at all times.... just in case....

EDIT: I forgot to say.. pre-loaded but not in the gun.

Hey Bernie...

The mags are not spring loaded or anything like that so no harm to the mags.
As far as safety...
As long as a full mage isn't accidently put into the gun, which would be silly as there is a reason to put a mag in , I see no reason whatever for concern. (another very big advantage over a K1 or Rattler)
So just like keeping a full mag for a PB, know it's loaded and why and keep it separate from the empty mags.

 

[sb327]

Since the huben comparison has been brought up, I’ll throw my 2 cents in. I have a huben and really like it. It definitely is a really great gun. As far as servicing, it sounds like the 2 are comparable.

But …the biggest gripe I have with the huben is when it jams. Yeah, yeah, yeah…I know…”shoot the right ammo”….blah, blah, blah. The huben irritates the crap out of me, not because I might have a jam but what happens when you do. It drains the tank and can be a pain to unjam due to the non removable mag.

I don’t have a slash but I haven’t heard about it jamming and causing the issues noted above. Maybe someone can speak to having a jam and what it’s like to clear it.

Dave

 

[MACTEN]

Since the huben comparison has been brought up, I’ll throw my 2 cents in. I have a huben and really like it. It definitely is a really great gun. As far as servicing, it sounds like the 2 are comparable.

But …the biggest gripe I have with the huben is when it jams. Yeah, yeah, yeah…I know…”shoot the right ammo”….blah, blah, blah. The huben irritates the crap out of me, not because I might have a jam but what happens when you do. It drains the tank and can be a pain to unjam due to the non removable mag.

I don’t have a slash but I haven’t heard about it jamming and causing the issues noted above. Maybe someone can speak to having a jam and what it’s like to clear it.

Dave

I haven't had a jam yet with probably 4 tins through it.. But, like the Taipan Vet II the barrel screws out just the same. Remove the end shroud piece and unscrew it.. The Vet needs another piece tightened near the block (receiver) but the Slash doesn't.
That's it. In fact I put a really good cleaning on it that way.. Removing the barrel on the K1 is much more tricky and I've done that many times..
I don't mean the Huben barrel is hard to get off because it isn't.
The the Slash barrel comes out fast and back in as well. No weird indexing or anything.
And if there was a jam in the Slash and you want to leave the barrel on..
You can do that as well because the the air has no impact on the barrel when the mag is removed, not unlike the Huben, but removing the mag is the same level of hard as the barrel on it Huben K1 that is)
(always keep the safey's on which there are two not including the mag removal when doing anything with air in the rifle)
Hands down simpler with the Slash.

 

[Pale_Rider]

Since the huben comparison has been brought up, I’ll throw my 2 cents in. I have a huben and really like it. It definitely is a really great gun. As far as servicing, it sounds like the 2 are comparable.

But …the biggest gripe I have with the huben is when it jams. Yeah, yeah, yeah…I know…”shoot the right ammo”….blah, blah, blah. The huben irritates the crap out of me, not because I might have a jam but what happens when you do. It drains the tank and can be a pain to unjam due to the non removable mag.

I don’t have a slash but I haven’t heard about it jamming and causing the issues noted above. Maybe someone can speak to having a jam and what it’s like to clear it.

Dave

With all due respect, do you get irritated that a diesel truck malfunctions when filled with gasoline? It’s the same with the k1, you know what ammo doesn’t cause issues so use that.

My gripe with Huben is that they don’t include a list of compatible pellets that will not jam your mag. It can be a nightmare if you don’t know which pellets will work or worse yet when people try slugs. Haven’t heard about certain pellets having an issue with the slash. I also like that Taipan made dedicated slug mags.

 

[MACTEN]

Just an FYI. No special tools are required to adjust or service the regulator.
Marek shows using a toothless, smooth channel lock because it's one of many examples of how not to mar the piston while removing.
I have removed, adjusted and checked, lubed every millimeter of this regulator (as I did the Huben) and on the Slash I never used a toothless pliers or channel lock. I used a non marring hemostat and also have smooth jaw needle nose pliers that will do it..
As well, just putting a bit of tape on toothed pliers or hemostat etc get's the same result.
Don't mar it.
As for reg adjustment.. any two 1.5mm allen wrenches or comparable will do.
It's not complicated. We Taipan Vet owners are used to using pins to adjust a hammer.

 

[sb327]

With all due respect, do you get irritated that a diesel truck malfunctions when filled with gasoline? It’s the same with the k1, you know what ammo doesn’t cause issues so use that.

My gripe with Huben is that they don’t include a list of compatible pellets that will not jam your mag. It can be a nightmare if you don’t know which pellets will work or worse yet when people try slugs. Haven’t heard about certain pellets having an issue with the slash. I also like that Taipan made dedicated slug mags.

Diesel trucks clearly have labels what fuel they use. Huben does not have a list of pellets it likes.

Again, I’m not necessarily irritated at the jam, I’m irritated at what follows. My L2 may fail to index but I don’t have to refill the gun when it does.

Dave

 

[Pale_Rider]

Just an FYI. No special tools are required to adjust or service the regulator.
Marek shows using a toothless, smooth channel lock because it's one of many examples of how not to mar the piston while removing.
I have removed, adjusted and checked, lubed every millimeter of this regulator (as I did the Huben) and on the Slash I never used a toothless pliers or channel lock. I used a non marring hemostat and also have smooth jaw needle nose pliers that will do it..
As well, just putting a bit of tape on toothed pliers or hemostat etc get's the same result.
Don't mar it.
As for reg adjustment.. any two 1.5mm allen wrenches or comparable will do.
It's not complicated. We Taipan Vet owners are used to using pins to adjust a hammer.

For seasoned veterans, such as yourself, it is simple to think of the many ways something can be taken apart on an air rifle. I was responding to a claim that the Slash was easier to work on for the average Joe compared to the K1. The average Joe doesn’t have the knowledge of working on airguns or mechanical aptitude for that matter. This isn’t 1982; the average Joe today has diminished mechanical aptitude. I know, I used to be one of them (still not to far from avg). The average Joe comes on AGN asking for solutions to problems that are a walk in the park for advanced airgunners.

Sure you could use a piece of 10 oz. leather and some regular, toothed channies to remove the piston but the likelihood of the avg Joe marring the piston is HIGHLY likely. The manufacturer recommends to use them because it is the most optimal tool for the task. Just as they include a specialized spanner wrench to service the reg. Of course DIY methods can work. I have a half a dozen modified tools that got the job done. However, I much prefer the best to for the job. Less headache, less hammer fisting.