taipan power adjustments and accuracy

boy did i do some learning . tuned my taipan veteran down for some close in pesting. about 32 FPE with jsb 25.3g kings. shot nice and tight. following week i take it out for 30yrd and 50yd paper punching and WTF? groupings are spread bad. my dumb ass wondering what had happened. after i had packed it up thought about it and remembered about different pellets and different power levels affecting trajectories with taipan, vulcan, and edgun but i guess all guns for that matter. any one else have any information about this? 
 
I just finished (yesterday) turning the regulator down on my Veteran std. I don't shoot beyond 60 yds. and don't plan to shoot the 34g pellets. I went from around 940 fps with 25.4 pellets with a 3500 fill and 38-40 shots to 880 fps with 50 shots and a 3300 fill. I haven't tried yet, but I suspect I can get 60 shot with the same 3500 fill I was using with the factory setting. I couldn't be happier with my current setting, although I"ll admit getting the regulator set was quite a chore. I think it might be even more accurate at the current setting.
 
I just finished (yesterday) turning the regulator down on my Veteran std. I don't shoot beyond 60 yds. and don't plan to shoot the 34g pellets. I went from around 940 fps with 25.4 pellets with a 3500 fill and 38-40 shots to 880 fps with 50 shots and a 3300 fill. I haven't tried yet, but I suspect I can get 60 shot with the same 3500 fill I was using with the factory setting. I couldn't be happier with my current setting, although I"ll admit getting the regulator set was quite a chore. I think it might be even more accurate at the current setting.

Just curious why you would mess with the reg pressure for such a small change in velocity, just a turn on the hammer spring tensioner would get you at your target speed. In fact, I found the .25 vet’s reg setting to be optimal for sending the kings between 880-920 FPS. Your golden in that range and have great efficiency. 
 
Adjusting the hammer spring to get velocities in the 870-880 fps range created a fairly large spike near the end of the string with a wider es than I was willing to accept and I was still filling to 3500 psi and only increasing the shot count to around 45. Now, if I so desire, I could fill to 3000 psi and still get 40 shots with an es of 10-15 psi. I couldn't be more pleased with the regulator adjustment. Major increase in shot count using less air, what's not to like.😁
 
Adjusting the hammer spring to get velocities in the 870-880 fps range created a fairly large spike near the end of the string with a wider es than I was willing to accept and I was still filling to 3500 psi and only increasing the shot count to around 45. Now, if I so desire, I could fill to 3000 psi and still get 40 shots with an es of 10-15 psi. I couldn't be more pleased with the regulator adjustment. Major increase in shot count using less air, what's not to like.
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I think you should start a new post with this, For some time I’ve been wanting to do the same, I might have few questions for you but I dont want to do them here to avoid high jacking this post. I also believe the regulator comes too set high on the Taipan. 

Answering the OP, at 30 yards this rifle should put pellets on the same hole. If the POI is all over the place at this distance then something is not consistent. Decreasing the tension on the hammer spring might have cause that you are now shooting below the knee but even with this change I expect the change in speed when you felt out of the regulator, where you will see an increase on the speed, as h2okenny describes. But while on the regulator you should have a flatter curve. 

What Im trying to say is that I don’t expect the adjustment on the HST cause this innacuracy at short distance, past 50 yard, maybe. We need to search what is giving you the incostincency, you will be amaze to find out how many factors could cause this. I’ll rule out first something with the gun, so It is mandatory that you meassure the speed to confirm your speed is consistent, if your adjustment in the HST puts you too far from the knee you could have some variance, another way, there is one optimal position for the HST given a regulator presusre, that position is on the knee of the curve, ohh boy I think explaining the details can make my answer too long, I can writ more about it later. 

If your rifle is consistent with speed, then a shift on POI can be caused by:

  • Dirty barrel, clean it to test
  • damaged pellets or inconsistent weight. Use good quality ones to test
  • Wind
  • scope
  • You

hope this helps ping point your accuracy problem
 
Not only with taipans, In ALL pcp AIRGUNS you have to find an harmonic relationship between reg. Pressure and hammer strike to push out determined pellet, if you have reg pressure high and hammer strike low, will not open enough..... if you have reg pressure low and hammer hitting hard, valve will open too much and too much volume of air will go out, in this scenario you may obtain high speeds but that amount of air may destabilize the pellet..... my advise is to choose the best pellet for the designated activity, then max out the HST(hammer spring tension).... begin shooting thru the chrono, make increase reg. Pressure 5bar on each test, if your favorite speed is for example is 900 fps, you have to go above it more or less about 20fps only by increasing reg pressure.... when you achieve those 918-923fps, you are done!! Now you decrease HST down to those 900fps !!!



greetings from Colimbia! (Sorry for my english, just try to do the best)
 
I own a taipan veteran .25 that came from factory at a regulator setting of 152 bar and shooting the 25.4 at 945 ft per second. The shot count was lower than I expected but accuracy was excellent at thirty yards one ragged hole. I reduced the regulator to 132 bar and the velocity to 850 feet per second. I immediately noticed shot count increased substantially but the accuracy decreased. I had flyers and the group opened up. Once I increased the velocity to 900 feet per second the accuracy returned to one ragged hole at thirty yards with not a single flyer.
 
Did you find it hard to adjust the regulator? I've watched videos and it seems like a very complex nightmare and easy to make a mistake. 

I've considered I'd like to get a few more fpe out of my Veteran and I'm looking at the Huma reg for that. Wondering if anyone on this thread has any experience with the Huma reg in a Taipan?

taipans regulators are very good, you dont have to buy other!!! For reg tunning in every airgun you first have to depressurize the system, then access regulator, in all regs i know, you may have to turn the adjusting screw COUNTER clockwise to INCREASE reg pressure, be carefull and only go with 1/8 turns!!!
 
Did you find it hard to adjust the regulator? I've watched videos and it seems like a very complex nightmare and easy to make a mistake. 

I've considered I'd like to get a few more fpe out of my Veteran and I'm looking at the Huma reg for that. Wondering if anyone on this thread has any experience with the Huma reg in a Taipan?

taipans regulators are very good, you dont have to buy other!!! For reg tunning in every airgun you first have to depressurize the system, then access regulator, in all regs i know, you may have to turn the adjusting screw COUNTER clockwise to INCREASE reg pressure, be carefull and only go with 1/8 turns!!!


I didn't want to high jack the post... but how did you get the reg out of the cylinder? Did you used the long screw I've seen in Ernest video? When inserting the reg back into the cylinder, is there something that will make the plenum always the same size? Asking because I'm afraid of changing plenum size by just taking it out and putting it back in... Maybe I'll open the new post about taking the regulator out of the Taipan.
 
I am in agreement. The taipan veteran is a very good regulator. The parts are extremely well finished. However, I did notice from factory there is over lubrication internally. On my specific .25 veteran I dismantled the regulator and carefully cleaned all lubricants and lightly lubricated with huma silicone oil. Once this process was complete I did chronybtest and noticed standard deviation lower and greater consistency. Prior to this process I had noticed the first shot was always inconsistent with the following shots. Now every shot is consistent with the others. Every time.