My Taipan has a cz barrel. Looking for the most accurate speed for long distance pesting. I read somewhere that they shoot better the faster you push them.
Taipan long 700 mm shooting redisighns
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That faster is better thing seems to MOSTLY be a component of shooting them from Daystate polygonal barrels. (not sure how/if that extrapolates to the FX liner situation).
I won 3rd in the non-.25/.30 class of American Field Target at 2022 EBR using a .22 Veteran Long, with the MRDs, and only pushing them to 890fps. My Vet Long has a 12 land and groove, traditional rifled barrel, which is probably the same rifling as your 700mm CZ .
More recently (this spring), I've had really good results shooting the .22 MRDs @ 940fps from a Daystate slow twist poly barrel. I measured BCs from that barrel at 940 and about 900fps and, surprisingly, the BC was better at 900fps than it was at 940, BUT, it was better in the wind at 940fps. Just another small example of how there's more to long-range performance than BCs. Ballistic coefficient tells a large part of the story, and can be used as a pretty reliable proxy for potential wind-resistance, but it doesn't tell the whole story, as there seem to be outliers.
I won 3rd in the non-.25/.30 class of American Field Target at 2022 EBR using a .22 Veteran Long, with the MRDs, and only pushing them to 890fps. My Vet Long has a 12 land and groove, traditional rifled barrel, which is probably the same rifling as your 700mm CZ .
More recently (this spring), I've had really good results shooting the .22 MRDs @ 940fps from a Daystate slow twist poly barrel. I measured BCs from that barrel at 940 and about 900fps and, surprisingly, the BC was better at 900fps than it was at 940, BUT, it was better in the wind at 940fps. Just another small example of how there's more to long-range performance than BCs. Ballistic coefficient tells a large part of the story, and can be used as a pretty reliable proxy for potential wind-resistance, but it doesn't tell the whole story, as there seem to be outliers.
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Thanks Franklin that's good information. Looking for the most accuracy out to 100 yards. Speed is a afterthought. What group sizes was you able to get..?
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Cherrypicked or average?
The following thoughts are coming from being able to shoot paper out to 135 yards (back of my property) off my back porch, and getting to shoot out to about 250 if I use the neighboring fields (leased and owned by acquaintaces who have granted permission). In short, I have the opportunity to shoot long range more than most.....
Realistically speaking, a pellet gun that'll AVERAGE 5 or more shot groups under about 1.5 inches at 100 yards is a rare bird. And that's only with the highest BC pellets available. Many will tell you otherwise, but they gloss over the descriptors of AVERAGE and cherry-picked, or haven't actually shot pellets to 100 yards (or further) enough to know any better.
Being brutally honest and realistic, the Veteran Long and the Ghost (with the slow twist polygonal rifled barrel) that I mentioned above were/are averaging groups under 2 inches at 100 yards. That means there will be occasional moa and better 5 shot groups at 100 yards, but there will also be groups in the 2-2.5 inch range. These are of course both guns meant for shooting, not bench howitzers like we're progressively seeing more and more of in the benchrest game. And this is without a field full of windflags and all shots "count" (not shooting a couple tins worth of sighters to figure out the wind). Also, both guns that I mention as examples are very competitive in the long range/high power field target game. In other words, this example of accuracy being worse than what most are willing to fess up to, is telling.
All in all, get your Vet Long to AVERAGE 5 shot groups under 2 inches @ 100 yards and you'll be doing pretty dang good. Get it to AVERAGE moa or better and you need to start signing up for competitions, cuz there's money to be made if it's shooting that well.
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Thanks again. I am getting back into the game of hunting with airrifles. In my 10 year layoff boy how things have changed. I have always hunted with rimfire. I have taken groundhogs out to eighty yards and bushy tails and rabbits and pests birds out to 50 yards or so. Looking forward to hunting with my Taipan and my fx impact 25.
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You picked a great gun for hunting in the .22 Vet Long.
Mine is set up similar to yours, with the plenum addition. My barrel isn't the 700mm though.
Good luck with it, come back and tell us how it does after you get some shots downrange. I always enjoy hearing shared experiences.
Mine is set up similar to yours, with the plenum addition. My barrel isn't the 700mm though.
Good luck with it, come back and tell us how it does after you get some shots downrange. I always enjoy hearing shared experiences.
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Fantastic air rifle! I have a very similar setup and it's super consistent. Might I suggest trying FX Hybrid slugs? Out of my Taipan they are lasers at 985 fps. I think the slightly choked CZ barrels play well with the mostly hollow Hybrids.
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Taipan Long “Sniper”
@peaceful_ruler, Just thought I better step back in here and clarify. I wasn't poo pooing on your awesome Vet or your tuning of it. Sounds like you're getting exceptional accuracy, an impressive shot count, and most importantly, a gun that is meeting your needs. You've been able to achieve a...
www.airgunnation.com Not to hijack your thread but here is a thread that I've been doing on my journey with the Taipan "Sniper".
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On another note, is that scope an Arken EPL4? I've been waiting for over 3 months for mine.
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Yes it is a EPL4. Very nice scope that can parelex down to ten yards. I have the 5 also on my impact .25. I like either one equally...
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