Stuck between a Uragan standard or Taipan long with CZ barrel

I am trying to decide which air gun will be my next purchase and wanted to see if everyone’s experience with them could help me make that decision. I will be going with .22 caliber either way but I am stuck between the Taipan Veteran long with the CZ barrel and the AGT Uragan (standard, not compact or king).

Originally I was looking at the Veteran long from Talon Tunes with the CZ barrel and the package that has the regulator and power plenum but with that out of stock at the moment I started considering the Uragan with the Huma regulator.

I’m looking for something that’s a little lighter than my 10 1/2 lb Mrod for offhand basement fun but can also be accurate on the bench for long range shooting.

The things I like about the TT Veteran are the CZ barrel (accuracy might be the most important factor for me overall and accuracy out to 100 yards for sure and maybe someday beyond), the power plenum installed, and the basic tune being done.

After looking at the Uragan I like that it also has a CZ barrel and with the addition of the Huma reg and plenum it should(?) be able to handle the heavier pellets and be similar to adjust for tuning as the Lane reg that I have in my Marauder. I have heard that despite being on the heavy side, the Uragan balances well for offhand shooting. I don’t think the rear cocking lever of the Taipan is a deal breaker but I think I like the forward placement of the Uragan more.

I think the things I’d like opinions on would be how the Uragan build quality holds up to the “simple” and “built like a tank” reputation the Taipans have. I’ve never had a bottle gun before and I feel like the bottle connection is a possible weak point which was one reason I had been looking at the traditional tube reservoirs like the Veterans have. I don’t plan to treat it like a “truck gun” sliding around floorboards or being tossed into a back seat but the Veterans have a reputation of being tough and rarely needing any repair and when they do it’s simple. Mostly I just don’t want to worry about it if I put it in a soft case to take it somewhere and that any repairs down the road are relatively easy with readily sourced parts.

I would also appreciate any thoughts on any accuracy difference between the two. Currently I have a .22 Marauder with a Jim Gaska hammer forged barrel and have been able to shoot a few sub 1 inch groups at 100 yards (not all the time, but definitely some of the time) and I am looking for something that can keep up (or be better if I can use heavier than my current 18.13 gr pellets). Both Vets and Uragans have CZ (or can come with CZ) barrels so I don’t know if there is any difference between them. In that same line, I know the Vets can be had with Lothar Walther barrels and I’d love to hear if anyone has seen a difference or has a preference based on having used both. I also see that there are some 700 mm CZ barrels for the Vets. I’m curious what everyone’s thoughts on those are especially related to long range accuracy as adding one down the road could be an advantage to waiting for the Veteran. I did read a recent post where someone had a 700+ mm CZ (slug?) barrel that they were testing in their Vet with various slugs but for now I plan to only shoot pellets but would like the ability to step up from 18.13 gr JSB’s to the heaviest .22 pellets available for better performance in wind. At some point I might dip a toe into trying some commercially made slugs which is why having some adjustability is important for tuning down the road.
 
Having owned both and being hard pressed I think I'd go with the Uragan. It was a really comfortable, accurate gun. Forward cocking was extremely nice. 

Weight wise there about the exact same so no difference there. I think there within about an inch of each other length wise as well. Not a huge difference between the 2. 

I do have a Taipan Veteran Standard though and would choose that over the Uragan for the reasons I wanted it for which was saving length and weight plus being able to adjust hammer spring on the fly with a DonnyFL speed dialer and not need any tools or take the gun out of the stock. Plus the trigger and anti double load feature are amazing!
 
I have a veteran long CZ barrel. It’s a nice gun. It is not light by any stretch of the imagination. Trigger is perfection. The rear cocking I actually prefer. The mags work great and it’s also easy to single load with out any devices . You can add a plenum and a heavy hammer spring if you want to push the power. Mine shoots the 25 redesigned pellets great at 100 ( hard to get right now) . I have no experience with the other gun. I have an impact ll and I actually prefer the taipan for shooting off bags. Walking I might take the impact because I think it might be a little lighter. Actually for walk hunter the daystate revere or an FX crown is a better pick over any mentioned to this point .
 
...I think I'd go with the Uragan. It was a really comfortable, accurate gun. Forward cocking was extremely nice. 

Weight wise there about the exact same so no difference there. I think there within about an inch of each other length wise as well. Not a huge difference between the 2. 

I do have a Taipan Veteran Standard though and would choose that over the Uragan for the reasons I wanted it for which was saving length and weight plus being able to adjust hammer spring on the fly with a DonnyFL speed dialer and not need any tools or take the gun out of the stock. Plus the trigger and anti double load feature are amazing!

Dillon, I'm not trying to argue, I'm just wondering. You mention the Uragan being comfortable and forward cocking being nice. Then you listed a bunch of reasons why you prefer the Taipan and that, in my opinion, make the Taipan a better choice. I'm wondering if the Uragan was that much more comfortable to shoot and cycle that you'd take it over the Taipan if pressed. 

Again, hope I'm not coming off argumentative, just curious!!!
 
I've owned the Taipan but never the Uragan.

This is what I like about the Taipan: 

- trigger. I measure the trigger on all the guns I have on Taipans, so it has become my unit of measurement

- anti double feeding, just that by itself is a marvel of engineering, I watch the thing working but never understood 100 how that works.

- magazines, simple, no jams, no clippings, perfection

- Hammer spring adjustments accessible

These are the things that I find interesting about the Uragan 

- shot count, I do like bottle guns, because my style of hunting I don't want to run out of shots mid hunt.

- reputation, the Uragan has proven to be as reliable as the Taipan 

If I were buying now, probably got the Taipan, better trigger, adjustable and even some mods available, 700mm barrel and the new tactical stock Taipan is announcing on their website... Personally I'm also waiting in the new Cricket Tactical.... It looks awesome 😎 












 
My experience is with the Taipan only, have a Standard .22. It is an excellent rifle, but probably will not meet your weight goal. Mine is 11.5 pounds with scope and silencer. Otherwise, I can't imagine the Uragan being any better. The Veteran mag and anti-double load features may be the best in the business. And its trigger is truly match quality. And regarding the barrel, LW is excellent, and I would have no preference of the CZ over it. 
 
...I think I'd go with the Uragan. It was a really comfortable, accurate gun. Forward cocking was extremely nice. 

Weight wise there about the exact same so no difference there. I think there within about an inch of each other length wise as well. Not a huge difference between the 2. 

I do have a Taipan Veteran Standard though and would choose that over the Uragan for the reasons I wanted it for which was saving length and weight plus being able to adjust hammer spring on the fly with a DonnyFL speed dialer and not need any tools or take the gun out of the stock. Plus the trigger and anti double load feature are amazing!

Dillon, I'm not trying to argue, I'm just wondering. You mention the Uragan being comfortable and forward cocking being nice. Then you listed a bunch of reasons why you prefer the Taipan and that, in my opinion, make the Taipan a better choice. I'm wondering if the Uragan was that much more comfortable to shoot and cycle that you'd take it over the Taipan if pressed. 

Again, hope I'm not coming off argumentative, just curious!!!

Lol no you are correct. For my specific needs I like the Taipan more. Length was a big thing and also ability to adjust power without removing stock. And that anti double load is awesome. 

But if I wasn't so specific about my needs I would likely go Uragan as it is a very very nice gun. Cocking is really nice and smooth and in forward position. Mags are really good. Huge shot count with the bottle. Synthetic stock which I prefer and is very comfortable. Trigger was excellent. Very accurate.

Both are excellent guns and can't go wrong either way. Both have there + and a few - that if combined I think would make the ultimate airgun.
 
The Urgan has the edge in my opinion.

Taipan Veterans are great PCPs. Very dependable, accurate, great trigger, 20 MOA rail and cool anti-double load feature. 

All Uragan barrels are CZ. They are robust and dependable. They have a big shot count with the 530cc bottle. They have a slightly better regulator than Taipan. The magazine is the best self indexing magazine on the market. The forward cocking is smooth and runs beautifully. The Uragan trigger is also very good when adjusted properly. Airgun Technology parts are more readily available. 

Veteran advantages: 1) 20 MOA rail 2) Anti-double load.

Uragan advantages: 1) Shot count 2) Better reg 3) Forward cocking
 
I only have the Uragan. Never have had a Veteran in my hands.

I am of the opinion that he Uragan is the ugly one of my perfect rifles. But it is by far the more convenient: confortable, accurate, lot of shots per fill, two magazines included, power adjustment is very easy and with a lot of range, in a word: Perfect !!

Daystate are perfect rifles too, but the one that I use more is the Uragan.

If you decide to buy a Uragan, you are not wrong.

Then, you just have to look a t the use you will give to it to determine which caliber would be adecuate.
 
Question,

What about the price? Last time I checked the Uragan was priced at 1,800 I remember that was EdGun price and everyone was saying was too expensive, I think the Taipan are now selling at $1500 and these where $1200 guns ....price spike hurts
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Uragan = USD 1,619 at AoA

You made me go there and check, true but for the mini, I was talking standard. $1889... At this price... Other guns will compete.

I also checked with Utah airguns and the Taipan Long and standard are both at $1400 right now. I'll say price difference is important, because you can grab a nice scope with the difference. 


 
I had a Vet and have a Uragan. Finish is better on the Vet. Both are great guns but I too would give the edge to the Uragan. Not to throw you a curve ball but consider a Prophet. It’s superior to both in my experience. Better accuracy, trigger and far easier tuning. Tons of power on tap too.

There is a point in which is very difficult to know if a rife is more accurate or you can shoot more accurately with an specific rifle.

Uragans, Vulcans, Daystate, some FX, (apparently edguns, Taipan also) easily can be is such situation.