Streamline .25 Grouping with Four Differnet Pellets...check it out!

Ok guys, If you want the quick and dirty of the results jump down to the results and pics.
Otherwise here is what I did. I shot 3 shots each of unsorted,
JSB 25.39gr
AirArms Diabolo Field 25.4gr
JSB Exact King Heavy MKII 33.95gr
Benjamin 6.4mm head but without posted weights. on can.

All target measurements are in inches. Measured outer edge to outer edge, not center to center.

Range conditions: 30yds, winds East 10mph, Humidity 80% (normal conditions are usually southern winds but we are about to get hit by Hurricane Harvey here in Texas)
Shooting: FX Streamline .25 no adjustments. shooting from a one piece portable bench, heart beat visible in scope. Front and rear bag rests. Single shot tray used.
Scope: Hawke 8.5-25x42 tactical, set at 24 power. Anti cant bubble used. 

Procedure: I filled the gun to 225bar prior to each new pellet mfg. I then shot 3 warm up shots which are shown with circles around them. I then shot multiple groups of 3 shots at each bull so that I could get a better average or better dispersion of data.

First up was the JSB 25.39.
This pic is the very first three shots for the warm up. Notice there is not much need to worry about the reg setting in as I have mentioned on other threads. This gun shoots pretty well after a fill with little to no POI change with fresh air fills to 230bar, 225bar for this test.
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Take note that this was a warm up 3 shot round, was not suppose to count in the story, actually I didn't plan on even showing these, but as it turns out I must be a little shy about performance....because this was the best group of the day. .258 for three shots. JSB 25.39g

I then shot the "competitive" groups for the JSB 25.39 and they are shown in this pic.
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I shot 4 different groups. Groups range from .340 to .523 for the JSB 25.39

The next pellet up was the JSB 33.95g. Heavy MKII. Here is the practice pic.
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My POA is for the #6 bull and the #27 bull. The groups were 1.18 and 0.919 respectively. These were shooting so sporadic I didn't feel comfortable shooting them in the competition part of the target, for fear of hitting out of the respective grouping and ruining the bulls outside the designated area. So these are the only shot I took with the Heavies. I have shot these before with the Streamline, in the chrony thread I started a few days ago and they grouped much better, still not as good as the 25.39's. I don't know if it is because the wind is out of the east today and normal prevailing winds are out of the south? I just don't know at this point.

So the next pellet up is the AirArms Diabolo Field at 25.4g(AA). Here is the practice group.
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Very respectable grouping here at .414 for the practice. Keep in mind these were shot just after shooting the JSB Heavies and with a fresh fill to the gun at 225Bar. This gun is so sweet to stay on POA after a fill, it just makes me giddy. lol. Sorry, I digress. Here are the competition shots for the AA pellets.

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The AA column is bulls 12, 24, 35, 38, and "43" for fun. Basically the center column of the 3 column shown in full. The results ranged from 0.301 to 1.098. The 1.098 group had one flyer that hit just above the 23 bull over in the JSB HVY column. I really think that was on me, I noticed I had the gun somewhat "pre-loaded" between the bags after the shot. It is what it is, so I included it since I was shooting in the "competition" area. Still not a bad grouping string for the AA pellets. The reason I said "43" for fun was because it was hidden in the grass. I could just make out the top of the "3" in 43 and had to extrapolate where the bull was in the grass. Hence why the green stain. lol.

Next up we have the Benjamin pellets. Again the gun is filled to 250bar before the shots are taken. Here is the practice pic.
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First shot was in the bulls! I was excited! And I think it probably shows, since the next two shots were well grouped together but were down and left slightly. Yielding a 0.505 practice group. Not bad Benji, lets see how you do in competition. Here is the comp pic. for the Benj.

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I only shot two groups with the Benj in the competition part of the target. Simply because that was a total of three groups all less than the .505 from practice. The competition shots came in at .356 to .379. About the best I could expect from these pellets so I stopped there.

SUMMARY:
JSB 25.39 groups range from .258 to .523
JSB Hvy MKII groups range from .919 to 1.18
AirArms 25.4g groups range from .301 to 1.098 (.698) if we delete the flyer, due to me.
Benjamin groups range from .356 to .505

How I would rank as the favorite pellet of the Streamline would be JSB 25.39, then the AirArms, then the Benjamin, then the JSB Hvy MKII. 
If you like what I did and got something out of it please feel free to pass along a few comments and some accuracy points. I look forward to seeing how other streamlines compare and what you guys think your guns favorite pellet is. Thanks so much for your time. I really do like this streamline. Thanks FX.

 

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Heres the thing. Your addition of the detailed assumptions and parameters of your testing like weather, equipment used, configuration, procedures, fill rates and photos make this post invaluable and highly credible in supporting a $1000 plus investment decision for people. You would be absolutely flabbergasted at how many $1500-2500 guns are out there that are totally unsupported by unbiased non-marketing hard objective data such as what you posted. Kudos! Anecdotal information and opinions are one thing but - In God we trust, all others bring data!
 
Thanks for the great info.

I shot a few groups today , but didn't get the results I hoped to see. I know they are not representative of what the gun is capable of, but posted them anyway. I guess it is all part of the learning experience.

Any issues with the Jsb king heavy mk II fitting in the mag? I have king heavies but haven't tried them yet, but was told the mkII are really tight.
 
"intenseaty22"Certainly chuck full of details. I don't own a Streamline, but enjoy seeing results for future reference. I always try to keep wind in mind, but never really think of humidity. Is it really a big factor when shooting airguns? Thanks.
At these distances, probably not. Probably bigger effect on the shooter sweating, ugh it's humid. Yet the warmer the air the less dense or reversed the cooler the air the more dense it is and greater resistance on the pellet. I just made note of it in case anyone was interested. Just on a side note I have shot in the rain, pretty close to 100% humidity and noticed my pellets were hitting higher than on a colder day (more dense air). Always something to think about in this sport. 

Thanks for the well wishes, we are all good in central Texas so far. Praying for the folks down south along the Texas gulf coast.
 
"Quintoona"I'm surprised the MKII isn't shooting well in your Streamline. They shoot the best of the 3 pellets I've tried in mine. (JSB King, King Heavy, and King Heavy MKII). They all shoot well. Do you know what velocity you are shooting at?
I was surprised as well. I did a thread on the velocities a few days ago and posted it here. If you would like to take a look.

http://www.airgunnation.com/topic/fx-streamline-25-chrony-data-jsb-25-39gr-jsb-king-heavy-33-95gr/

To answer your question the Heavies were averaging 831.9fps and the 25.39 JSB's were averaging 945.4fps.
 
"Dave"Thanks for the great info.

I shot a few groups today , but didn't get the results I hoped to see. I know they are not representative of what the gun is capable of, but posted them anyway. I guess it is all part of the learning experience.

Any issues with the Jsb king heavy mk II fitting in the mag? I have king heavies but haven't tried them yet, but was told the mkII are really tight.
I actually used the SST (single shot tray) on all the shots, but I think I have loaded the MKII without any issues in the mag in the past.....let me go check real quick.....yes they load just fine in the magazine. I think that was part of the reason for the redesign on the heavies to create the MKII's was to shorten the pellet a little so they would load better...I could be wrong on that, but that is what comes to mind. Looking forward to your posts on your results and thoughts on the Streamline.!!!
 
"intenseaty22"I did forget to say about that Heart Beat, man, that is my #1 nemesis, even more than wind. I do really well with my breathing, but that ticker gets me every time.
Butt pads! I got to get me some!!!! I know, I got the same problem. I can actually see it in the scope. My next bench will have a separate seat not tied to the table top. This one is very nice and handy, folds and works well....except for the beat in the seat. lol.
 
I've also done some testing on my .25 Streamline. Not as extensive as yours, but I also found the Heavies to not work well and ended up settling on the JSB 25.39.

Looking into modding a magazine to hold Polymags. I'd be very interested to see your results with the polys.

My gun was purchased in January and the MKIIs didn't fit the mag and I returned them. Don't know if they have changed anything since then or not.
 
"MonsterMaxx"I've also done some testing on my .25 Streamline. Not as extensive as yours, but I also found the Heavies to not work well and ended up settling on the JSB 25.39.

Looking into modding a magazine to hold Polymags. I'd be very interested to see your results with the polys.

My gun was purchased in January and the MKIIs didn't fit the mag and I returned them. Don't know if they have changed anything since then or not.




Here is my, as supplied magazine with 33.95gr MKII pellets loaded and ready to go. They cycle just fine so far. Would be happy to load the poly and give them a try, but I don't have any. Sorry. Mine is only a couple of months old, so maybe they did make a change?
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"FunGun"
"MonsterMaxx"I've also done some testing on my .25 Streamline. Not as extensive as yours, but I also found the Heavies to not work well and ended up settling on the JSB 25.39.

Looking into modding a magazine to hold Polymags. I'd be very interested to see your results with the polys.

My gun was purchased in January and the MKIIs didn't fit the mag and I returned them. Don't know if they have changed anything since then or not.



Here is my, as supplied magazine with 33.95gr MKII pellets loaded and ready to go. They cycle just fine so far. Would be happy to load the poly and give them a try, but I don't have any. Sorry. Mine is only a couple of months old, so maybe the did make a change?
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What is the difference between the Jsb heavies and MkII heavies? I got the normal heavies as my free tin to try but haven't yet. My understanding is that the BC is higher on MkII.