This is America ! We have our right to our opinions. People have the right to make bad choices. Others have the right to challenge those bad choices. Even if being called arrogant by people who stand by bad decision making.
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This is America ! We have our right to our opinions. People have the right to make bad choices. Others have the right to challenge those bad choices. Even if being called arrogant by people who stand by bad decision making.
Recently I did almost exactly this. I got an avanti Champion to dissuade some medium sized critters, and it worked like a charm! I tried my red ryder, but i was only clipping then at most 1/2 of the time, lol
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"bad decision making"
"Agree ! Most of us on AGN know our limits on the airguns we choose. Others don't."
Nope, no arrogance in that garbage at all.
"Agree ! Most of us on AGN know our limits on the airguns we choose. Others don't."
Nope, no arrogance in that garbage at all.
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RWS 56 is a very nice accurate and powerfull springer. BTW I have seen coyote killed with a 177 springer. Head shot from 15 yards DRT, coyote was so busy looking at his chickens he didnt notice the shooter.
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I'll let others who read this bantering back and forth come up with their own conclusions. You and Wayne74 on one side of the issue. My postion the flipside of the issue.
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I'll place myself on your side. Either shoot to kill, or plink to warn. Everybody has their own ideas, but when I pull the trigger on an animal, it because I'm very certain the result is going to be death. For me, I wouldn't pull the trigger if I wasnt very certain of that outcome. I do understand that variables exists and outcomes are not definite, but thats my goal...
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Of course those examples exist. Doesn't mean everyone with a .177cal M56 should take up coyote hunting. I'm just talking about the situation wayne74 is talking about. Sounds like a residential type setting where neighbors might be a issue. A wounded animal is going to get you more attention in your neighborhood than one dropped dead and no one knows about it.
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I would first contact the local animal control group or humane society and have them deal with the problem and if no such luck...Freeze paintballs..Then switch to FULL AUTO... You know the rest...I think less of a bad rap regarding the neighbors...YO!
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Also realize that a wounded animal still has to make a living and if wounded, sicken or weaken may have to rely on easier game to survive which may increase the odds of your pet(s) being part of the menu. Just another scenario to consider.
Cheers
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For coyotes, a large caliber is needed. I assume that you something quiet as well.
https://www.pyramydair.com/s/m/Hatsan_MOD_130S_Vortex_QE_Breakbarrel_Air_Rifle/4586
Hatsan .30 caliber break barrel nitro piston - short range power - 34 foot pounds.
Other alternatives would be using a rimfire rifle with CCI CB long (primer, no gun powder & bullet - 32 foot pounds) ammo or a crossbow using bolt with broadheads.
https://www.pyramydair.com/s/m/Hatsan_MOD_130S_Vortex_QE_Breakbarrel_Air_Rifle/4586
Hatsan .30 caliber break barrel nitro piston - short range power - 34 foot pounds.
Other alternatives would be using a rimfire rifle with CCI CB long (primer, no gun powder & bullet - 32 foot pounds) ammo or a crossbow using bolt with broadheads.
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If they are jumping his fence ,string a hot wire on top. If they start to dig under it is because he has something in his yard that is attracting them. ( dog food, bird feeder, or open trash) till that is gone he will have trouble . Best to learn to live with them,he might have to build a kennel for small dogs to over night outside. Urban coyotes are here to stay no gun of any type is going to change that.
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Thank you for being a lone voice of rational thought in a cacophony of foolishness.
PRECISELY CORRECT
KNOW YOUR TARGET
KNOW YOUR WEAPON
KNOW YOUR INTENTION
Need I mention that there is a LOT of EPeen showing in this thread?
meh
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You're absolute correct sir. I've been a hunter all my life, as I believe you may be also, and there's no excuse for simply wounding a creature and leaving it to die. You are dealing with folks who are not sportsmen here, they ain't gonna get it. To deal with a coyote, I'd personally be into a powder burner, at the minimum .22 LR, but more likely a .243 or better, and at long range, .22-250. If I'm gonna reach out to a 'yote, the least I can do is kill it cleanly. Or just don't bother.
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My air rifles are .22 springers and PCP. I wouldn't grab any of them to deal with coyote. If I was wanting to use air rifle on coyotes I'd have a .30 putting out at least 65 FPE. Head shots.
I live in the country. My son is my neighbor. Coyotes are quite allergic to his 270WSM and my .308.
I live in the country. My son is my neighbor. Coyotes are quite allergic to his 270WSM and my .308.
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I have been hunting for 64 years and I always try to make clean kills on all game animals. A coyote is not a game animal , it is a predator I don't mind wounding them at all. If the neighbors call the law over a yelping coyote I think our local law enforcement would just ignore them and if they didn't they would have one hell of a time proving it was me.
Thank you.
Wayne
Thank you.
Wayne
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What a great way to go about life ! You sir are the type that give hunters a bad name ! Sure...a coyote is a predator as you say. But I always thought they deserve that clean one shot humane kill just like that trophy buck gets. Not in your world though! I done trying convince you of anything ! Blast away !!
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