Just ordered the STUD mag and loader kit yesterday. Looking forward to trying it out myself!
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I should be receiving my EPOCH slug liner barrel today along with a tin of matched Corbin slugs. I stuck with the standard barrel as I like the current length. The SKOUT team has been great to work with and answered all my questions. Apparently it comes with a stronger HP reg spring but they recommended starting out with the current set up with the HP set at 1700 to 1750 and the LP around 190-200. Should yield the recommended 920fps with the 48.8gr slugs. If any issues getting there then you could try the stronger spring. I also want to see how it shoots 34gr pellets.
Just need to find time to get out to the local range to try it out. In the meantime I will try to chrono it at home to confirm velocity targets at the above settings. Stay tuned.
Just need to find time to get out to the local range to try it out. In the meantime I will try to chrono it at home to confirm velocity targets at the above settings. Stay tuned.
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The STUD mags work great. Mine could use a little more tension since sometimes the last two pellets don’t advance. .30 caliber JSB 44.75.
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Excellent mags (.25) but the real value is if you get the sorter and loader combo. You can have 100 rounds ready to drop in during your shooting session. Quick to refill with the shaker dealio.
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So I know this is an old post but I was curious. What does higher LP setting do.That dwell setting is simple in what it does, to release LP air against the spool piston and screw in seal collar, which changes the pressure differential within the valve sealed piston area causing spool to shift position opening poppet / seat interface.
The Dwell settings is simply HOW LONG this LP air is delivered. Understanding that as HP air fills the valves throat / transfer there will be a RISE in pressure via bleed hole ( spoken of above ) on opposing side of piston, that once equal to the LP that opened it, will cancel that effect. Further rises in HP on the backside of piston will start to forcefully shift the spool to close.
* The electronic dwell controls TIME ... The LP regulator controls the FORCE ( Pressure )
There is an overlap of both effects and in my experience with other valves using similar closing techniques, Stronger one effect becomes, it will near equally take effect away from the other.
In other words ... if vent gets bigger allowing HP to counter the LP effect in opening poppet quicker, less so will the LP be able to keep the valve open.
If vent is smaller, slower will the HP rise and the LP will have a tad more effect to keep the valve open.
This is where LP reg setting becomes even more important, higher LP pressure will stall the effect of closing time slightly and can be a tune parameter given vent gets excessively large. Not enough LP or electronic dwell and valve either chirps or does not open at all.
My take on it ... nothing more or less
Ying Yang going on for sure !!
strangely I have set my LP setting fairly high and the dwell quite low… like 12 and it seems to like that quite well for shooting .177
not sure if my settings like this are actually doing anything actually or I’m just imagining things….. but I’m getting great results shooting 13.4g JSB redesigns in .177
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Thank you for keeping this thread active.
The LPR (Low Pressure Regulator) and HPR (High Pressure Regulator) affect each other. Roughly speaking, if you set your LPR to 10% of the HPR, and you raise your HPR you will see the LPR raise accordingly.
The LPR and Dwell have a different relationship. If the dwell is too low and the LPR too high, you can get failures to activate the valve.
I have made many adjustments to both and have not found a profound effect on accuracy, although many have stated it makes a difference in their gun.
Which barrel do you have, and what speeds are you shooting the 13.4s at?
The LPR (Low Pressure Regulator) and HPR (High Pressure Regulator) affect each other. Roughly speaking, if you set your LPR to 10% of the HPR, and you raise your HPR you will see the LPR raise accordingly.
The LPR and Dwell have a different relationship. If the dwell is too low and the LPR too high, you can get failures to activate the valve.
I have made many adjustments to both and have not found a profound effect on accuracy, although many have stated it makes a difference in their gun.
Which barrel do you have, and what speeds are you shooting the 13.4s at?
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I’m using the lothar Walthar barrel 17.7 twist.
im shooting at a close 19yards. around 738fps.
I felt like maybe turning the LP up more helped with POI shift… but I could be imagining it.
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I have said before that if I set my dwell on my sub 12 .177 Epoch beyond 30 I get what sound like a very quick double fire! I run mine at around 12 -15 and get the best consistency for both 8.44 and 10.34 gr pellets, the sub 12 LPR are non-adjustable so not had a chance to change that, but from my understanding it affects the speed and strength of opening the solenoid and in turn unbalancing the spool valve, so I would guess the reason it linked to the HPR is that more pressure is needed to unbalance the valve at higher HPR pressures, but not sure on just what effects would be by just increasing the LPR pressure independently?
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