Skout Airguns Epoch - SHOT Show 2022 video

[AirShootist]

I am in talks to get one of these early. That is Billy Gardner (of Smart Parts fame) in the video. I am trying to use my paintball connects to get a unit for testing or at least one of the first pre-orders. 800psi operating pressure with a 4500psi tank = tons of shots. I hope they are available in the fancy anos like the ones in the video. I'd prefer the .45 grip frame, too, rather than the adjustable back strap (plastic) grips that will be on the production models.

This is the one thing from SHOT show that has me completely shook. I need it. 

 

[Peskådot671]

The low operating pressures will make it more affordable for new PCP shooters to get into. Even 3000 psi aluminum SCUBA tanks or 3442 psi steel SCUBA tanks can be used at a more affordable price.

 

[bunkeru2k]

DLX/Shocker has been around for quite a while and they have been making paintball guns forever. Not Walmart paintball guns, but high end tournament guns. Honestly surprised it took this long for that crossover to happen. If you want real innovation, check out the paintball companies and their designs to get performance from extremely low pressure.

 

[Cranky1]

So did anyone hear the weight? 

 

[3DAirgunWorks]

With 13gr jsb pellets I can tune my .22 avenger down to 900psi and shoot at 860fps. Nothing too groundbreaking. 

 

[c_m_shooter]

They didn't have a functioning prototype at the show. They are jumping immediately to the extreme high end price point, negating the theory of low priced air. I am not very optimistic about these.

 

[Corvid_hunter]

+1 on the reporter, he is downright irritating!

+1 on the reporter, he is downright irritating!

+2

I just can't watch/listen to Rossi.

X3. I won't watch any of his videos because he is so annoying.

 

[Peashooter]

I fear price will be extremely high too, their PB markers are also not in the low or mid segment of price.

It is a but sad cuz in the extreme end of Airguns, you pretty much only find Daystate and their halo guns like the grey wolf, which here are about 50 % more expensive than a impact M3

Also wondering about in house barrels, they cant be anything but really good, even if you dont factor a potential high price in, cuz even modest airguns today can shoot pretty darn well when things are in line, and it do not get any worse with the barrels in higher end rifles.

 

[Peskådot671]

We'll see how this turns out. Because it's an electronic airgun, it will be more of a head-to-head comparison between Daystate and Skout Airguns and who does it better. I welcome the competition. 

 

[Franklink]

They didn't have a functioning prototype at the show. They are jumping immediately to the extreme high end price point, negating the theory of low priced air. I am not very optimistic about these.

What's the "theory of low priced air?"

 

[c_m_shooter]

They didn't have a functioning prototype at the show. They are jumping immediately to the extreme high end price point, negating the theory of low priced air. I am not very optimistic about these.

What's the "theory of low priced air?"

A previous poster thought the because they are regulated to 800 psi, it will be a better choice for shooters who use hand pumps or the cheaper 3k psi scuba tanks instead of carbon fiber tanks.

 

[Manchild]

I was turned off at first by the electronic trigger, but not so much after listening to the details of charging and shots per charge.

 

[Lewis]

Very exiting.

It looks like a lot of work has gone into it so far. One of my questions is about the plenum. They describe it as a full dump every shot. This could lead to a few issues in my mind. If the full plenum is dumped, you could lose a lot of efficiency since the expectation is that the plenum carries more air than the volume of the barrel. Also air continuing to discharge as the pellet exits could affect both accuracy and sound output. Finally, how does this scale with caliber changes? If you have a full dump of a plenum that can drive a .30 cal projectile, it sounds like it would waste a LOT of air in .177. 

Please let me know if I have missed/overlooked something?

 

[Franklink]

They didn't have a functioning prototype at the show. They are jumping immediately to the extreme high end price point, negating the theory of low priced air. I am not very optimistic about these.

What's the "theory of low priced air?"

A previous poster thought the because they are regulated to 800 psi, it will be a better choice for shooters who use hand pumps or the cheaper 3k psi scuba tanks instead of carbon fiber tanks.

Okay, I see what you mean now. 

I think that a gun getting full power shots with low reg pressure (800 as stated in vid) is a good thing even for guys with compressors or 4500 SCBA tanks. Typically with a regulator, a gun gets consistent shots with as high of a pressure as the gun is rated for. So, yes, a hand pump guy can stop at 2500 or 3000 and get x # of good shots. BUT somebody with a SCBA or compressor can get 2x # of good shots. 

@ lewis, I maybe have inferred this erroneously, but I got the impression from the vid that the electronics will be able to account for caliber changes. Done differently, but similar in concept to the Delta Wolf. Also, I was thinking the implication was that the dump valve comment was referencing the secondary valve used to open the primary valve, ie the valve they're using in place of a spring driven hammer to open the main valve. 

It'll be very interesting to see how this all plays out. 

 

[Peskådot671]

They didn't have a functioning prototype at the show. They are jumping immediately to the extreme high end price point, negating the theory of low priced air. I am not very optimistic about these.

What's the "theory of low priced air?"

A previous poster thought the because they are regulated to 800 psi, it will be a better choice for shooters who use hand pumps or the cheaper 3k psi scuba tanks instead of carbon fiber tanks.

It will benefit everyone whether or not if you can afford it or if you're one of the poors. Also, price was never mentioned for this gun but I'm assuming it will be up there. What I'm getting at is that the technology is there and if they wanted to make a more budget oriented model, I'm pretty sure they could.

 

[gun-blue]

It's not very clear what they're dumping. Their web site claims "Maximum Shot Cycle Control – adjustable by 1-millisecond increments", so not the primary plenum. It'll be interesting to hear more about their approach and how it all works.

 

[Pestkillah]

OMG I can't stand watching Rossi. If you can get past his alterior motives and greed, the technology Skout is offering is really pretty neat. Hope to see more of them in the future.

PK

 

[JimS]

I know it's early on for distribution, but will these be available in Canada and if so any idea who will be the representative?

 

[JimS]

Who is producing the barrels is it in house or farmed out, someone suggested it was a TJ liner on YouTube?

 

[kingrude1]

Hard for me to get excited about an airgun where there is no working concept to show. You can talk all day about how wonderful your product is going to be, but if you don't even have a single one that works and does what you claim, so it can be scrutinized, it is the same as only having a story to tell.