Six cards at đź’Ż in the rain...
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Nice shooting.
I’ve often wondered how far off a pellet could be thrown if it hits a few rain drops.
I’ve often wondered how far off a pellet could be thrown if it hits a few rain drops.
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Good shooting. That consistency shooting in the 225 to 230 range at 100 yards is impressive. Nice job!
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Thanks! I just looked and it’s hard to read my writing. Five out of the six targets were over 30. Everything was working. 234 235 234 224 231 232. On my 235 score, I threw a seven on the last target. I believe I made a much better shot than that. But that doesn’t change the score.
mike
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If you are game, can you shoot some cards at 50y?
I get great accuracy at 100y with the KO slugs, but do not get proportional accuracy at 50y with them. My hope was to find a slug/barrel combo that would be worthy of 50y BR since slugs are now allowed in Usarb unlimited. No dice so far. The 50y target 10 ring is 1/4”. I can get maybe 20-22 10s...but will have 2-5 ugly shots thrown in there as well that ruin the card. Sometimes 5s or 6s. This does not happen for me with pellets. Usually the worst I will see with a pellet is a 9 or maybe an 8 if I really misread the wind.
These are 2 25 shot groups shot as fast as possible in pretty light wind. One at 102, and one at 50. I just pointed in the middle and did not try to make any wind correction. This is pretty representative of what I consistently see. The 50 is almost the same size as the 102. Definitely not proportional.
MikeÂ
I get great accuracy at 100y with the KO slugs, but do not get proportional accuracy at 50y with them. My hope was to find a slug/barrel combo that would be worthy of 50y BR since slugs are now allowed in Usarb unlimited. No dice so far. The 50y target 10 ring is 1/4”. I can get maybe 20-22 10s...but will have 2-5 ugly shots thrown in there as well that ruin the card. Sometimes 5s or 6s. This does not happen for me with pellets. Usually the worst I will see with a pellet is a 9 or maybe an 8 if I really misread the wind.
These are 2 25 shot groups shot as fast as possible in pretty light wind. One at 102, and one at 50. I just pointed in the middle and did not try to make any wind correction. This is pretty representative of what I consistently see. The 50 is almost the same size as the 102. Definitely not proportional.
MikeÂ
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Mike,
while we’re waiting for a fair day, check out this group. Numerous times since I received the red wolf I have removed the barrel from the action, and very carefully scrubbed it with JB. I had just finished approximately the eighth such process, There was no sight in involved, I put the barrel back on, remounted the scope and tightened everything down. Then I sat down to shoot a group. These are the first 10 shots out of the barrel. The last six went into approximately 1/10 of an inch. At 115 yards. I had the pleasure of watching them all fly through the same hole. Same POA for all ten, perfect conditions, obviously. If you look at the group it seems that the barrel just kind of settles in.
Immediately after that, I shot my first groups in the high 230s. It was just a confidence builder.
Do you occasionally see quarter inch five shot groups at 100 yards? I know you probably just keep going at that point.
Groups like this intrigue me, they are so rare.
mike
while we’re waiting for a fair day, check out this group. Numerous times since I received the red wolf I have removed the barrel from the action, and very carefully scrubbed it with JB. I had just finished approximately the eighth such process, There was no sight in involved, I put the barrel back on, remounted the scope and tightened everything down. Then I sat down to shoot a group. These are the first 10 shots out of the barrel. The last six went into approximately 1/10 of an inch. At 115 yards. I had the pleasure of watching them all fly through the same hole. Same POA for all ten, perfect conditions, obviously. If you look at the group it seems that the barrel just kind of settles in.
Immediately after that, I shot my first groups in the high 230s. It was just a confidence builder.
Do you occasionally see quarter inch five shot groups at 100 yards? I know you probably just keep going at that point.
Groups like this intrigue me, they are so rare.
mike
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I often see very small 5 shot groups like 1/4 or less. They typically don’t hold up for much longer than that. I don’t fault the gun or pellet, but just attribute it to the fact that it is impossible for me to see slight variances in the wind at 100y.
25m shooting has taught me that 100 will never be mastered with the crap BC projectiles we use in airguns. I have 25m indoors and any of my bench guns will print essentially one slightly larger hole 25 shot groups at will indoors. Take it outside in the wind at 25m and use all the flags you want and the group size will get immensely bigger by comparison. On days when the wind isn’t too tricky at 25m you can put together perfect cards because the actual workload on the shooter is much lower. At 100y the winds effect is 16 times that of 25y. Nobody on the planet can see the slight 1-2mph changes that will move a pellet an inch or more at 100. When guys are shooting a great group with a good gun and the next shot goes an inch away...they call it a flier and say they got a bad pellet or something when the wind just changed imperceptibly. Outstanding groups can be had but they are more a product of a good gun and good fortune that a consistent wind held for long enough to get off a number of shots before it ever so slightly changed. That’s my take on it.
MikeÂ
25m shooting has taught me that 100 will never be mastered with the crap BC projectiles we use in airguns. I have 25m indoors and any of my bench guns will print essentially one slightly larger hole 25 shot groups at will indoors. Take it outside in the wind at 25m and use all the flags you want and the group size will get immensely bigger by comparison. On days when the wind isn’t too tricky at 25m you can put together perfect cards because the actual workload on the shooter is much lower. At 100y the winds effect is 16 times that of 25y. Nobody on the planet can see the slight 1-2mph changes that will move a pellet an inch or more at 100. When guys are shooting a great group with a good gun and the next shot goes an inch away...they call it a flier and say they got a bad pellet or something when the wind just changed imperceptibly. Outstanding groups can be had but they are more a product of a good gun and good fortune that a consistent wind held for long enough to get off a number of shots before it ever so slightly changed. That’s my take on it.
MikeÂ
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My goal was to shoot 3 good 10Â shot groups at 50 yards. All of the groups pictured are 10 shot groups.
Groups one and two I was kind of messing around shooting quickly and getting a feel for the rifle, I hadn’t shot all week. Groups number three and four I really tried hard to shoot good groups.
then I ran out of pellets in that tin, I knew it was a good tin. Groups five and six were shot with a different tin that I expected not to be so good from previous experience at 100 yards.
Group number seven I shot with a proven tin. I would use groups 3, 4 and 7Â to access accuracy.Â
it was not calm. At 100 yards I would’ve had trouble holding 2 inch groups. Winds were 3 to 6 miles an hour with switches. I did not compensate for the wind. I held dead center every time.
my bench set up was horrible. The stock was resting on one of the rabbit ears to get it on target. With a good set up and calm conditions I’m sure I could shoot quarter inch 10 shot groups.
I hope this helps
mike
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Thanks Mike. That’s pretty similar to what I’m getting with the KO slugs. I need 25 good shots per card to keep up with pellets, and I’m just not getting that. I can often get 7-8 great shots in a row that basically go through the same hole...but then usually something that ruins the score is coming. The best I’ve done with slugs is a 249...but that was preceded by like a mid 230 and followed by something similar. Wont stay in a groove like pellets. I shoot a lot of 245-250 with pellets, and rarely ever break 238 with slugs. 1/4” ten ring on the 50y target. A typical 10 shot group with pellets and no wind hold is not much taller than 1.5 pellets.
Thanks for that experiment.
MikeÂ
Thanks for that experiment.
MikeÂ
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