Dude, I have the MOA 4-12 w/the front AO and to me for a budget scope under $200 it can't be beat. My AO's numbers line up better than any other scope I have when used for range finding. My turrets are not mushy, and when they click, my poi goes where it is clicked to. The only thing that I don't like is that its a 2 moa per hash reticle so what ever moa that I am off when looking through it, I have to times it by 2