Show em - Single stroke/Pump Pneumatics, the more exotic the better!
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I don't know of a single stroke pneumatic with the velocity to reliably take squirrels. My Daisy 753S pushes a 7.4gr wadcutter to around 470fps. All my SSP pistols hover around the 400fps range. Good for 10m paper punching, but not pests. My squirrel gun is a .177 D48 springer.
Perhaps someone else knows of a higher velocity SSP?
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Hello AirNGasman, what an exquisite collection of pumpers you have/had! I hope you don't mind me commenting on this old post. I am writing a book about Sharp (one about Heirinkan will probably follow), and I wondered if you still have the serial numbers of your old Sharp guns? That would be interesting info for the book, as I am trying to find logic in sn's. Especially the 648 Deluxe is one that I have very little info about. Thank you in any case for your attention, and kind regards, Louis (book email address: [email protected])
Ps. My Ace, in .177 caliber:
Hi S.A.,
Key words here are "have had". I don't own any SSPs now.
I've never paid any attention to serial numbers, so can be no help in that regard. My airgun thing has always been all about performance; the guns', and mine. But if I can be of any help to you in those regards, feel free to ask (probably best if we do that by PM). I have ongoing records of my velocity testing of hundreds of airguns of all kinds; as well as photos and long-range accuracy testing of many of the best.
Regards,
Ron
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It got a whopping 9.3 foot pounds with 7.9 grain Crosman Premiers, Steve. My competition all shot 12-17 foot pound SPROINGERS.
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Re: OP's question about abbreviations:
PCP = Pre-Charged Pneumatic
SSP = Single-Stroke Pneumatic
MSP = Multi-Stroke Pneumatic
As AirNGasman noted, the Titan was probably the champion for SSP power. Most SSP match rifles have a geared cocking lever that will do around 6 FPE (550 to 600 FPS) with a relatively easy charging stroke, though. The IZH-46M pistol is rather amazing IMHO, getting 450+ FPS with light ammo and super easy charging.
PCP = Pre-Charged Pneumatic
SSP = Single-Stroke Pneumatic
MSP = Multi-Stroke Pneumatic
As AirNGasman noted, the Titan was probably the champion for SSP power. Most SSP match rifles have a geared cocking lever that will do around 6 FPE (550 to 600 FPS) with a relatively easy charging stroke, though. The IZH-46M pistol is rather amazing IMHO, getting 450+ FPS with light ammo and super easy charging.
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What exactly is this one? I've never seen an under lever springer pistol before. From the looks of the lever I'll bet it packs a wallop for a springer pistol.
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these are springers not SSP's , the spring and piston travel up in the grip , not horizontal along the barrel i have one and think it is easy to shoot but a bit hard to cock .
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LP 53 is a springer... the LP 2 and LP3 are ssp's. Very well made but weird valves.
Walther carried on the tradition of weird valves to the LPM. I replaced mine with a standard poppet style and velocity jumped more than 50 fps.
Bob
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Yup, cute to look at, very well made and accurate, but not nearly as user friendly as the same-timeframe spring piston FWB 65. I'd challenge anyone to cock these more than a few times, even if it doesn't bite your finger as they typically do!
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If the FWB 300 and 300S springers were the unbeatable match rifles of the 70's...the LGR did the same for the 80's.
It totally dominated for a few years and extremely high match scores became so common, that they actually shrunk the official 10-meter target...!
It totally dominated for a few years and extremely high match scores became so common, that they actually shrunk the official 10-meter target...!
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I have gotten really good results from the RWS Basics. I can hardly tell them from the R10s, but not as good of results from the Hobbys. The Crosman flat nose match 7. Gr are also good, but the R10s are the top dog, for me.
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well, Steve 123 has a very good point not on Diana model 100
but that is alright the rifle is treated like it was never made
working on one or finding someone to do so could be very hard, the trigger group has to come off and is rated as the more or most complicated of any air rifle ever built
interesting
but that is alright the rifle is treated like it was never made
working on one or finding someone to do so could be very hard, the trigger group has to come off and is rated as the more or most complicated of any air rifle ever built
interesting
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I usually shoot R10 and Hobby. Never tried Basics. I'll give 'em a try. I'm adding two tins to my next PA order.I have gotten really good results from the RWS Basics. I can hardly tell them from the R10s, but not as good of results from the Hobbys. The Crosman flat nose match 7. Gr are also good, but the R10s are the top dog, for me.
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Thanks for the help.
Bobby C, do you remember which SSP Ron Jobes(spelling?) had at LD's place that was around 12fpe and was super hard to cock?
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Old No. 1, LOL - my very first "real" airgun - and classic MSP - the "tootsie roll" early Benjamin 347 that Santa brought in 1968. I'm pretty much a springer guy these days...but if you can't love an accurate, slender, 5-pound, variable-power, recoilless rifle capable of 700+ FPS, you might have an issue, no? 
I shot the bejeezus out this little fellow as a teenager, then rediscovered its elegant efficient design in the mid-1980's. I re-did the wood myself, and had the action rebuilt and re-finished at the Benjamin St. Louis factory - not too many years before Crosman bought them out. So it sorta represents two eras of Benjamins - and still works just fine.
I shot the bejeezus out this little fellow as a teenager, then rediscovered its elegant efficient design in the mid-1980's. I re-did the wood myself, and had the action rebuilt and re-finished at the Benjamin St. Louis factory - not too many years before Crosman bought them out. So it sorta represents two eras of Benjamins - and still works just fine.
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