Tuning Shooting slugs with an AF Condor/Escape?

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Stretch

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I picked up an Airforce Escape .22 a few weeks ago and have been enjoying it's simplicity, tune-ability and light weight. With the stock 200 cc tank I was getting about 13 shots per fill with 25-27 grain slugs at 900=950 fps. Not bad for such a light gun. But I target shoot so I'd like a higher shot count. So I got a 380 cc tank and swapped it for the smaller one. Now I'm getting about 20 shots. Better, but I'd really like to get 40-50 shots per fill.

So I got a 500 cc 4,500 psi tank and a regulator off Amazon. With the regulator maxed out at 20 MPa and hammer spring at the max all I was getting was maybe 15-20 FPE. MAJOR FAIL. There just isn't enough plenum to push a heavy-ish slug. Works great with 18 gr pellets but sucks with slugs. There are other regulators out there but without a much larger plenum I think I'd have the same problem with any regulator.

So I'm thinking going un-regulated. So my question is, what would be the best valve / hammer / springs combination to accomplish what I want, 25+ grain slugs at 950+/- fps and 40+ shots per fill? Stock Condor? TT Super High Flo?

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Stock spring..85gr hammer..and the new rimlock valve .. but the one that comes in the full size condor.. the one in the ss is different.. with that I mean the bronze spring holder hole is the biggest in the full size condor..will try to post a pic later.. your gun is supposed to have the same valve. You will know when I post the pic ..that should give you power enough for up to 32g ..for more shots.. pcp tunes will have any adapter needed to install a 1000 CC big bottle.. I had crickets n taipans.. now I use uragans.. but my 3 old airforce guns are going no were .. for heavy lead. Still nothing better.. my modified 22 condor could shoot a 62g pill at 1060 fps in low power..but it takes some coins ..😬 .o n a eternal reg is a must..to fully enjoy the gun..but if not the big bottle will help a lot..
 
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Here's my fix and it's working great. I got a 500 cc / 4500 psi carbon fiber bottle ($150 on Amazon), a 4500 to 2200 psi fixed regulator ($25 on eBay) and a paintball remote with slide bleeder ($25 on eBay). The bottle on the rifle is a 380cc aluminum tank I found on eBay ($40). I went from maybe 10 shots to now 70+ fully regulated shots with 24.8 grain NSA slugs.

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You should try a work guard.. it will allow you a better finger placement on the trigger + it strengthen the lower part if the rifle..as for the .25 I could never manage to get acurracy even when both of my .25 barrel were heavy.. 18" n 24" .. at least for pellets..but the tj 1-22 worked awesome for pellets.. I sold it ..but I have a few barrels on the works..will purchase another when my order is ready..
 
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mercado said:
You should try a work guard.. it will allow you a better finger placement on the trigger + it strengthen the lower part if the rifle..as for the .25 I could never manage to get acurracy even when both of my .25 barrel were heavy.. 18" n 24" .. at least for pellets..but the tj 1-22 worked awesome for pellets.. I sold it ..but I have a few barrels on the works..will purchase another when my order is ready..
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The Wokguard is a good idea. I think I'll see if anyone has a spare they don't need.

One thing I've noticed, and this .might be caused by the flexing you talked about, is that when I squeeze the trigger slowly my groups are much larger than if I snap the trigger quickly. The trigger is stock, I haven't polished or lubed it at all. But as it is the pull weight isn't horrible and the trigger is reasonably crisp, so I'm surprised by this change in accuracy.
 
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