Shooting slugs question
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I have a RW Safari, and it group very well at 75 and 100m, with RDs, at 930-960 fps, but at 25 and 50m no, have to use 18,13gn at 910fps, the min 3:42 are true in my case.
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HI I read thread , First i make and shoot alot of slugs , and while I Know slugs preform best over 75 yards , here is what is true , All of my slug guns shoot sub Moa @100 yards , they also shoot under sub 1/2 moa at 50 yds and hold tight beyond 200m ,
Now I shoot my guns with pellets if I am shooting say short range say 20 to say 70 yds as all of my guns pretty much shoot pellets 1 ragged hole at this range , so while I can shoot or hunt with either , pellets are better close range for smaller quarry , squirrels , crows ,
But for say Coyotes I need the power and penetration of a solid slug , or woodchucks long range.
So Centercut is right ,groups with sligs stay tighter then pellets past 100 yards but groups do not shrink .
also I saw some pretty wild groups here , before I would compare my gun to how well it is shooting you need to get it to group first , weather it is you moving like Bob says or possible it is tune or sizing or dirty barrel or flaws , get gun shooting pellets good or slugs good then compare , if everything is wild you got other issues and it is not choosing proper slug for your guns power and twist rate and matching size to barrel
LOU
Now I shoot my guns with pellets if I am shooting say short range say 20 to say 70 yds as all of my guns pretty much shoot pellets 1 ragged hole at this range , so while I can shoot or hunt with either , pellets are better close range for smaller quarry , squirrels , crows ,
But for say Coyotes I need the power and penetration of a solid slug , or woodchucks long range.
So Centercut is right ,groups with sligs stay tighter then pellets past 100 yards but groups do not shrink .
also I saw some pretty wild groups here , before I would compare my gun to how well it is shooting you need to get it to group first , weather it is you moving like Bob says or possible it is tune or sizing or dirty barrel or flaws , get gun shooting pellets good or slugs good then compare , if everything is wild you got other issues and it is not choosing proper slug for your guns power and twist rate and matching size to barrel
LOU
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Excellent summary, IMO. My shooting is similar in many ways but instead of air guns slugs I usually go to rimfire (.22LR, .22 magnum, .17HMR all available) for needs beyond the "pellet" ranges I usually shoot-as you note maybe 75 yards give or take for most pellet shooting. I know that everyone cannot to this due to location and I can understand the value of air gun slugs for those individuals. Getting some consistency out of the gun seems like step #1 for now, with whatever ammo serves your needs.
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yes correct first you need to get your gun shooting as best as possible usually under 1/2moa at 50yds , then you can compare ammo but if you shooting over 2 moa at 50 , you need to fix issues or spend more time shooting off a stable rest ,
I used to shoot 17hmr and rimfires , but to be honest , all of my pcp guns out shoot my 22 rimfires and 17hmr , Pcps came along way in last 5 years along with slugs avail to buy , I make most of mine because I use solid slugs mostly and I use heavier then most
If I was asked which is more accurate 10 yrs ago Id say rimfires but not any more , pcps much better for long range and many pcp platforms out preform fpe as well .LOU
I used to shoot 17hmr and rimfires , but to be honest , all of my pcp guns out shoot my 22 rimfires and 17hmr , Pcps came along way in last 5 years along with slugs avail to buy , I make most of mine because I use solid slugs mostly and I use heavier then most
If I was asked which is more accurate 10 yrs ago Id say rimfires but not any more , pcps much better for long range and many pcp platforms out preform fpe as well .LOU
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This shooting was on the floor with a bipod.
I can understand all I had read here and what you say it’s right if you want to compare you need to have a « protocol » but I didn’t compared pellet vs slugs, I’ve just compared slugs @40m vs slugs @50m+wind.
The day I had shoot @40m I had great groups with pellets so I don’t think that I’m in cause of dispersion of slugs @40m, and the day after i really not believed make something right @50m but pellets were flying with all this wind and the box of slugs was there so I tried..
I will test more seriously @20,30,40 and we see what will be the result.
All my ammunitions are cleaned and lubed and my barrel was cleaned 100shoots ago.
I will receive a high precision balance this week so I will check difference in weight too.
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Your experience has been dramatically different than mine, but I don't shoot large caliber PCP's. No way I would reach for a PCP over a .17 HMR if I needed to hit my target beyond 100 yards. If it works for you, that's good.
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