I’ve been doing a lot of posts recently with the most cutting edge air rifles available today. The last one I think I called shooting two electron rifles…Today we explore a much different type of PCP.
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For many years I’ve enjoyed pushing the envelope constantly as it pertains to what we can do with airguns.
When I first picked up my red wolf during the pandemic, and was shooting it at 200 yards, people were scratching their heads. I was getting strange responses to my posts. Someone was asking me to shoot it at closer distances so they could more easily compare it to their rifle…
My point is we don’t know what we can do until we try.
I used to shoot at a place called Minnetonka gun club. Funny, but it’s not in Minnetonka, it was about 100 years ago. Now it’s way north of the Twin Cities. I spent many years driving all the way up there and back on a weekly basis to shoot. The neat thing is, I shot with so many different people, with so many different interests.
I took up Benchrest shooting for a while, centerfire Benchrest. This was because I was interested in ultimate accuracy. I was able to join and pick it up because they had monthly BR matches. I learned from all the other guys. All my rifles were varmint rifles. Set up to shoot from 200 to 600 yards. Specifically for prairie dogs. That meant big magnification scopes with all kinds of neat reticles. This was about 25 years ago.
I also loaded for BPRC. I simply wanted to be able to shoot a half inch group with open sites -cast lead bullets. All hand loads obviously. I finally did it after a Summers work.
The reason I tried it, is because other guys next to me were shooting 1 inch groups with open Sights! So I figured I could cut that in half with some work. There were also some guys who would shoot sharps rifles at 400 yards. I didn’t get it at all. I wanted to shoot my 22-250. I could bang the four-inch gong at 400 yards every time…Then they started doing it with open sites, with their sharps rifles. I would not have believed it, had I not seen it.
There was another gentleman I learned from on the yellow forum. His name was Yrrah on the forum. He and I would debate back-and-forth about what was better, or what was needed more specifically, to shoot small groups from a magnification standpoint. He claimed he could shoot just as small of groups with a 12X, as I could with 50X. And he could. And proved it again and again. I eventually shipped him one of my big BSA 50 X scopes for him to try. I think he quite enjoyed it. And I learned that you didn’t need magnification to shoot little tiny groups. But I do like magnification.
A long intro, for some shooting I did this weekend.
quite a while back I bought a Lot of old Sheridan rifles in an auction. None of them were what I thought I was getting. I will cover that in another post, on the traditional rifle forum.
What I ended up receiving, was some rifles that had been modified. At great expense. The work would’ve been done about 40 years ago by B & B Supply in Minneapolis. They came from the collection of a very famous collector in Minnesota. But I actually bought them on a national auction.
So here they are, two old Sheridan rifles, a model C CO2 and the scarcest model of all, the model B. But they were converted to PCP’s, holy crap! This was not what I was expecting.
all Sheridan rifles are 20 caliber. All of them. The model B, was converted to 22 caliber. It shoots 29 foot pounds. It is an absolute hammer. The trigger is quite difficult, because it needs to open up that valve, it’s a big valve.
The model C was left in 20 and is much less powerful. It also has a much better trigger. I will shoot a 1 inch group with it at 100 yards on a calm day in the future.
Here they are:
Now the 100 yard groups:
Model B 22
Model C Groups
It was really windy, I can do much better especially with the 20.
You can see how I set it up to shoot above. Instead of trying to dial the rifle in to shoot at 100, I set up an aim point up above, Which doesn’t get hit and doesn’t need changing. The groups drop down to the papers below.
I had a blast shooting these groups. What’s my point? We don’t know what our equipment can do until we push it. And it’s fun to push it and see the results. We don’t believe things can be done in many cases, until someone else does it.
I absolutely could not believe that a guy named Yrahh was shooting hundred yard groups under an inch when I first started back into airguns about 15 years ago….Then I started doing it.
mike
Below is an offhand 5 shot group I shot at 35 yards with the 22 caliber hammer. Below that is a picture of the two converted rifles with an original model B.
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For many years I’ve enjoyed pushing the envelope constantly as it pertains to what we can do with airguns.
When I first picked up my red wolf during the pandemic, and was shooting it at 200 yards, people were scratching their heads. I was getting strange responses to my posts. Someone was asking me to shoot it at closer distances so they could more easily compare it to their rifle…
My point is we don’t know what we can do until we try.
I used to shoot at a place called Minnetonka gun club. Funny, but it’s not in Minnetonka, it was about 100 years ago. Now it’s way north of the Twin Cities. I spent many years driving all the way up there and back on a weekly basis to shoot. The neat thing is, I shot with so many different people, with so many different interests.
I took up Benchrest shooting for a while, centerfire Benchrest. This was because I was interested in ultimate accuracy. I was able to join and pick it up because they had monthly BR matches. I learned from all the other guys. All my rifles were varmint rifles. Set up to shoot from 200 to 600 yards. Specifically for prairie dogs. That meant big magnification scopes with all kinds of neat reticles. This was about 25 years ago.
I also loaded for BPRC. I simply wanted to be able to shoot a half inch group with open sites -cast lead bullets. All hand loads obviously. I finally did it after a Summers work.
The reason I tried it, is because other guys next to me were shooting 1 inch groups with open Sights! So I figured I could cut that in half with some work. There were also some guys who would shoot sharps rifles at 400 yards. I didn’t get it at all. I wanted to shoot my 22-250. I could bang the four-inch gong at 400 yards every time…Then they started doing it with open sites, with their sharps rifles. I would not have believed it, had I not seen it.
There was another gentleman I learned from on the yellow forum. His name was Yrrah on the forum. He and I would debate back-and-forth about what was better, or what was needed more specifically, to shoot small groups from a magnification standpoint. He claimed he could shoot just as small of groups with a 12X, as I could with 50X. And he could. And proved it again and again. I eventually shipped him one of my big BSA 50 X scopes for him to try. I think he quite enjoyed it. And I learned that you didn’t need magnification to shoot little tiny groups. But I do like magnification.
A long intro, for some shooting I did this weekend.
quite a while back I bought a Lot of old Sheridan rifles in an auction. None of them were what I thought I was getting. I will cover that in another post, on the traditional rifle forum.
What I ended up receiving, was some rifles that had been modified. At great expense. The work would’ve been done about 40 years ago by B & B Supply in Minneapolis. They came from the collection of a very famous collector in Minnesota. But I actually bought them on a national auction.
So here they are, two old Sheridan rifles, a model C CO2 and the scarcest model of all, the model B. But they were converted to PCP’s, holy crap! This was not what I was expecting.
all Sheridan rifles are 20 caliber. All of them. The model B, was converted to 22 caliber. It shoots 29 foot pounds. It is an absolute hammer. The trigger is quite difficult, because it needs to open up that valve, it’s a big valve.
The model C was left in 20 and is much less powerful. It also has a much better trigger. I will shoot a 1 inch group with it at 100 yards on a calm day in the future.
Here they are:
Now the 100 yard groups:
Model B 22
Model C Groups
It was really windy, I can do much better especially with the 20.
You can see how I set it up to shoot above. Instead of trying to dial the rifle in to shoot at 100, I set up an aim point up above, Which doesn’t get hit and doesn’t need changing. The groups drop down to the papers below.
I had a blast shooting these groups. What’s my point? We don’t know what our equipment can do until we push it. And it’s fun to push it and see the results. We don’t believe things can be done in many cases, until someone else does it.
I absolutely could not believe that a guy named Yrahh was shooting hundred yard groups under an inch when I first started back into airguns about 15 years ago….Then I started doing it.
mike
Below is an offhand 5 shot group I shot at 35 yards with the 22 caliber hammer. Below that is a picture of the two converted rifles with an original model B.
