Setting up a Red Wolf

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oldsparky

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I bought a Red Wolf HP in 25 cal. I am setting it up but haven't shot it yet. I have a Hugget Snipe I dont know what caliber it is the ID is .268 I would think that is too small for a 25 cal. Anyone have one they know is .25 cal and could take a measurement for me?
Second question, I took a lot of time adjusting the trigger and have it set as heavy as it will adjust and still function, it is still too light for my liking. Anyone successfully put in a heaveir spring?

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I don't think there is a spring, at least not in the traditional sense of a coil spring that can be replaced or cut. I believe the only way to achieve your goal would be to replace the micro switch, since there is no mechanical sear that is spring controlled. I saw a thread once on an English forum that described someone doing that, but it would be beyond my pay grade to attempt. When I was adjusting my RW trigger, I remember the adjustment as being sensitive, and a small turn resulted in a very high effort release. But, I'm accustomed to light triggers, so maybe your preference is just beyond the design parameter.
 
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Would replacing the spring at the yellow arrow (15) in the red wolf manual make a stiffer trigger? Or if that spring was stiffer would you not be able to feel the micro switch?
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I've never had mine apart, but my guess, that spring may be the first stage weight adjustment. If so, then yes, a heavier spring would make the pull heavier, but, if it's heavier than the second stage release, then you would just pull through it with no feel of a first stage stop, so precision trigger control would be difficult. When I was adjusting mine, I remember it easily becoming very heavy, probably over two pounds, although I didn't measure it. You could simply have an out-of-spec switch, which the folks a AOA may replace. It is interesting, please post your resolution.
 
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The Red Wolf trigger sucks. I sold mine because of it.
It's too light, and you can never get the creep out of it. The way it's designed unfortunately...

But this guy posted some excellent information, and seems to have fixed it up nice. Be sure and read to the bottom.

Adjust Daystate Airwolf Trigger???

Has anyone had success adjusting the trigger *heavier* than the factory set ~ 6 oz? I have a 3 year old Airwolf I purchased new and have always shot it with no adjustments. I’d like to now adjust it closer to the 1# pull weight of my center fire rifles. I followed the directions and the screw...
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thumper said:
The Red Wolf trigger sucks. I sold mine because of it.
It's too light, and you can never get the creep out of it. The way it's designed unfortunately...

But this guy posted some excellent information, and seems to have fixed it up nice. Be sure and read to the bottom.

Adjust Daystate Airwolf Trigger???

Has anyone had success adjusting the trigger *heavier* than the factory set ~ 6 oz? I have a 3 year old Airwolf I purchased new and have always shot it with no adjustments. I’d like to now adjust it closer to the 1# pull weight of my center fire rifles. I followed the directions and the screw...
www.airgunnation.com www.airgunnation.com
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Actually, you can get the creep out, and you can get a reasonably crisp feel, if you are okay with a single stage trigger, which is my preference anyway. If you adjust all the travel out of the first stage, while also adjusting the second stage weight, you can get nice single stage feel. Mine is set at about 5 ounces. You have to play with both as you go. If you go too far with the first stage travel, then the rifle will not cock (actually, reset the switch), so you have to ease it out a bit at that point. I don't agree that it sucks, but granted, it does not have the same feel as an excellent mechanical match grade trigger. But since most mechanical air rifles do not have that quality trigger, the RW is better than most. I prefer the feel of my Taipan Veteran and HW100, but the Red Wolf is very acceptable. The best Steyr and Anschutz match triggers are far superior. Just my opinion of course.
 
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I took my time adjusting and the best I could get it for my taste was where you could feel a definite let off between 1st and 2nd stage, with the weight as firm as I could adjust it. it was still too light for my liking. I had AOA adjust it and it wouldn't get firm enough for me. I know it sounds backwards but too light a trigger makes me develop a jerk like trigger anticipation. I know the Red Wolf is a fine gun and they out shoot me regularly but I dont think I could get used to it. Another negative for me is how the gun can have stored energy by cycling the safety even thou the lever has not been moved after firing. I know I would loose points in FT by breaking the seer even I didnt shoot. Probably a old man thing not remembering.
 
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oldsparky said:
I took my time adjusting and the best I could get it for my taste was where you could feel a definite let off between 1st and 2nd stage, with the weight as firm as I could adjust it. it was still too light for my liking. I had AOA adjust it and it wouldn't get firm enough for me. I know it sounds backwards but too light a trigger makes me develop a jerk like trigger anticipation. I know the Red Wolf is a fine gun and they out shoot me regularly but I dont think I could get used to it. Another negative for me is how the gun can have stored energy by cycling the safety even thou the lever has not been moved after firing. I know I would loose points in FT by breaking the seer even I didnt shoot. Probably a old man thing not remembering.
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It might be worth your time to set it up as single stage. It's very simple, just adjust out all the first stage travel. That way, your finger need only rest on the trigger with virtually no pressure, and then you apply only the light pressure needed to fire it. There is no guessing about let off from the first stage stop. That is why virtually all light-pull BR triggers are single stage, it's difficult for most shooters to manage a light two-stage trigger without occasionally pulling through the first stage stop.
 
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elh0102 said:
It might be worth your time to set it up as single stage. It's very simple, just adjust out all the first stage travel. That way, your finger need only rest on the trigger with virtually no pressure, and then you apply only the light pressure needed to fire it. There is no guessing about let off from the first stage stop. That is why virtually all light-pull BR triggers are single stage, it's difficult for most shooters to manage a light two-stage trigger without occasionally pulling through the first stage stop.
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Agree completely.

I’ve never liked the two stage trigger on my Air Wolf and was hoping the Red Wolf would be different - it’s not. I adjusted all the first stage out on the Red as suggested above and it’s a *much* improved feel now. Not quite like a true single stage mechanical trigger, but much better than the barely perceptible two stage.

Should have done this years ago on the Air Wolf.
 
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Hmmmm... I guess its just a matter of opinion. I have/had a RAW TM1000, and FWB 601 SSP, plus other guns with "known" good triggers including a few Taipan. The triggers on my Red Wolf HP, Pulsar, and Delta Wolf are every bit as good as any of the above IMHO... The first stage on the DW has a slightly higher pull weight than the other two, which I like better for shooting off bucket/sticks.
 
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Centercut said:
Hmmmm... I guess its just a matter of opinion. I have/had a RAW TM1000, and FWB 601 SSP, plus other guns with "known" good triggers including a few Taipan. The triggers on my Red Wolf HP, Pulsar, and Delta Wolf are every bit as good as any of the above IMHO... The first stage on the DW has a slightly higher pull weight than the other two, which I like better for shooting off bucket/sticks.
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I am anxious to shoot a Daystate E trigger again. I really wanted to like that rifle! That particular trigger was too light and is the only E trigger I have ever felt.
 
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