Thank you sir! And yeah I'll figure it out! Taking more time than I'd prefer but do think I'm figuring it out. Just gonna try the box test next with both scopes and see how it goes.
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Scope issue: horizontal shifts?
- Thread starter Dairyboy
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Dairy I have had tested many scopes and have saw major shifts when scope is dialed and fif not return to zero , I also had issues with adjusting zoom and it would change POI ,
Sounds like a scope with innards loose tolerances or turret springs lost their ability to tension things , If you have a solid mount for a scope like a weighted pic rail and a target at 50 or 100 yards you could see just how well it tracks and when banging what moves , in any event it cant be trusted , send it in to be fixed and use something else for now ,
Ps I had alot of scopes which not only were off on mils or moa vs turret numbers but also where it tracked like on an angle , and a lot of cheaper name brand scopes if not optically centered , stop moving well before they should I had 1 which clicked 23 times with 0 movement ,
Now on turrets most china optics are 2 points of holding turrets tension-ed some better japan scopes have 3 points of springs , Now tier 1 German glass all run 5 points of anchoring and springs which is why they rarely have any shifts or are off over .5% off when is less then 1/2 of 1 % to 0 %
I check all my optics weather for testing review or If they in my personal collection , and I have saw alot of errors threw years , but latley with better cnc machines alot of cheap stuff is actually quite good now compared to a few years back ,
LOU
Sounds like a scope with innards loose tolerances or turret springs lost their ability to tension things , If you have a solid mount for a scope like a weighted pic rail and a target at 50 or 100 yards you could see just how well it tracks and when banging what moves , in any event it cant be trusted , send it in to be fixed and use something else for now ,
Ps I had alot of scopes which not only were off on mils or moa vs turret numbers but also where it tracked like on an angle , and a lot of cheaper name brand scopes if not optically centered , stop moving well before they should I had 1 which clicked 23 times with 0 movement ,
Now on turrets most china optics are 2 points of holding turrets tension-ed some better japan scopes have 3 points of springs , Now tier 1 German glass all run 5 points of anchoring and springs which is why they rarely have any shifts or are off over .5% off when is less then 1/2 of 1 % to 0 %
I check all my optics weather for testing review or If they in my personal collection , and I have saw alot of errors threw years , but latley with better cnc machines alot of cheap stuff is actually quite good now compared to a few years back ,
LOU
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@dairyboy I just read through your post. It seems that the scope is doing exactly what my Helos 6-24×50 was when the parallax was sticking. It shifted my groups around back and forth some just like you are describing. Sometimes I could feel a light "thud" coming from inside the tube (when dialing parallax) from when the insides would release and shift from spring pressure. I sent it back in and Athlon replaced it without question. It was a common defect from what I discovered in my subsequent Google searches.
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You know I haven't seemed to be having issues with it anymore. I couldn't tell you what it was.
Did a side by side box test at 20yds shooting 5 mils each direction with both the 4-20 and 2-12 Helos. Both performed flawlessly and no difference. Decided to keep put it through the test and leave it on the gun.
I do wonder if it was the parallax. I can't remember but do think I went back and forth on it quite a few times all the way. Maybe loosened something up?
I've been shooting with it on the Prophet for over a week now with not a single issue. Shooting from 10-115yds in calm conditions hitting what I'm aiming at. Setup strelok on it and dead on. It's been bouncing around in my truck the entire time and haven't had to touch the turrets even once. 65yd head shots on sparrows. 80yds on starlings. Small dirt clods at 115yds.
I have no idea honestly. Can't say I care anymore as it's working as should and I'm happy now. But do gotta say it drove me up the wall for quite some time trying to figure it out.
If I do have any other issue I will send it in though and just have them check it out. At this point though doesn't sound like it.
Did a side by side box test at 20yds shooting 5 mils each direction with both the 4-20 and 2-12 Helos. Both performed flawlessly and no difference. Decided to keep put it through the test and leave it on the gun.
I do wonder if it was the parallax. I can't remember but do think I went back and forth on it quite a few times all the way. Maybe loosened something up?
I've been shooting with it on the Prophet for over a week now with not a single issue. Shooting from 10-115yds in calm conditions hitting what I'm aiming at. Setup strelok on it and dead on. It's been bouncing around in my truck the entire time and haven't had to touch the turrets even once. 65yd head shots on sparrows. 80yds on starlings. Small dirt clods at 115yds.
I have no idea honestly. Can't say I care anymore as it's working as should and I'm happy now. But do gotta say it drove me up the wall for quite some time trying to figure it out.
If I do have any other issue I will send it in though and just have them check it out. At this point though doesn't sound like it.
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