I have seen people complain about how poor quality cheap scope under $500 are compare to more military scope that cost $3000. I have not look through a $3000 scope. Most expensive scope I look through is $650. I've also look through cheap center point other lower brand that cost $40-100. And I can not tell the difference on glass clearly. They all look really clear to me. Doesn't matter if im looking at a $40 or a $650 scope. They both all amazing. But yet people complain they are too blurry, out of focus, etc. How good is the human eye anyway? Same thing for TV. I can not tell 720p from 1080p. Nor can I tell from 1080p to 4k. Is it all about bragging right, having the most expensive optic or does it really make it a big difference.
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I'm with you in some respects, different in others. TV's.... my family raves about the newest blah but I couldn't give it a second thought.... Scopes - the really cheap ones are often just that and I can tell a difference (try shooting them at dusk or at least into heavy shade! But once you get to a point, they pretty much all look the same to me except for something that matters more to some than to others.... I use my scope/focus/parallax to range my targets.... If I can find a $500ish scope that will let me identify 60y vs 70y than its good enough for me.... IF it has a reticle that suits me.
Those features are more common/expected in higher priced scopes.
Those features are more common/expected in higher priced scopes.
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Isn't that what a range finder is for? I rather trust a laser range finder to tell me the distance than to use the side parallax. Usually I just leave it at 100 yards or infinity and I can see clearly from 50 yards to over 100 yards. Only time I turn side focus down is when I shoot close like 10-20 yards.
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can be.... Think about field target or someone who likes to sit on his porch and plink at targets of opportunity (like me, not saying it's everyone). I use my range finder plenty but not frequently. Main use is SETTING UP targets for FT practice. Don't take my replies the wrong way! Your not wrong, just that there are scopes good at somethings that others are not. And... for those that take things like FT comp seriously and are willing to spend up for guns/scopes/other do-dads... it's a benefit and part of the hobby for them. Will all that help YOU hit a 100y 1inch target, maybe/maybe not
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Yes it does make a difference,butt you need to have experience and that takes time and opportunity.
I can agree with this thought,the less the distance you are looking at and the less power used it would be harder to tell.
You do not need to spend big money on a good scope;butt you need to spend enough to be able to tell the difference.....it is about resolution and seeing the nuances good optics bring out.
When someone says they do not see the difference I think they are not trying to see the difference,just like people that say they can not hear the difference in a quality stereo and a cheap one.
NO,no,you do not need to spend a lot for a good scope ,butt you need to spend enough that the scope you buy will last for years with No problems.
Here is the thing about optics,save up and buy smart=quality ..Because optics can and should last a lifetime.
And another thing, I certainly think some people spend way too much money on some scopes;Why, because they can and that is the only reason,anybody telling you difference is BS...Unless they are shooting grasshoppers at 300 yards.
I can agree with this thought,the less the distance you are looking at and the less power used it would be harder to tell.
You do not need to spend big money on a good scope;butt you need to spend enough to be able to tell the difference.....it is about resolution and seeing the nuances good optics bring out.
When someone says they do not see the difference I think they are not trying to see the difference,just like people that say they can not hear the difference in a quality stereo and a cheap one.
NO,no,you do not need to spend a lot for a good scope ,butt you need to spend enough that the scope you buy will last for years with No problems.
Here is the thing about optics,save up and buy smart=quality ..Because optics can and should last a lifetime.
And another thing, I certainly think some people spend way too much money on some scopes;Why, because they can and that is the only reason,anybody telling you difference is BS...Unless they are shooting grasshoppers at 300 yards.
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Unfortunately, there are differences in every aspect of a scope and its optics as one starts scaling the price levels. I wish there's a $500 scope that performs as well as a $3000 Nightforce/Schmidt and Bender or a $4500 Tangent Theta, but my experience says otherwise. I don't want to come off as a scope snob, but until you get behind and play with a higher end scope, it is hard to know what you are missing. Does one really need a $2500 Vortex Razor Gen 2 or a $3500 NightForce on an airgun to hit your target? No, you do not.
But in the PB world of ELR(Extreme Long Range) out to 2000-4000 yards, it matters. When you have the magnification cranked up and the elevation cranked to the max, the image quality between a mediocre vs high end scope becomes obvious. Tracking, low light image, mirage, chromatic aberration, contrast, lighting, etc all comes into play and adds up to make quantifiable differences between a mid vs high end scope as one scales the pricing ladder.
You might then say: "Well, i only shoot my airguns out to 200yds at most." That may be true, but airgun pellets have a very loopy trajectory, so at 150yds, you might need to crank your elevation knob 15mils or more, which affects the image quality since you are so far off optical center. But with a higher end scope, the effects are less and more importantly, you can also trust the elevation tracking.
Believe me when i say i wish there's a holy grail $500 scope that can replace my higher end scopes, because that would be awesoome and would save me a ton of money. There's a reason high end scopes hold their value in the secondary market much much better than guns/airguns.
But in the PB world of ELR(Extreme Long Range) out to 2000-4000 yards, it matters. When you have the magnification cranked up and the elevation cranked to the max, the image quality between a mediocre vs high end scope becomes obvious. Tracking, low light image, mirage, chromatic aberration, contrast, lighting, etc all comes into play and adds up to make quantifiable differences between a mid vs high end scope as one scales the pricing ladder.
You might then say: "Well, i only shoot my airguns out to 200yds at most." That may be true, but airgun pellets have a very loopy trajectory, so at 150yds, you might need to crank your elevation knob 15mils or more, which affects the image quality since you are so far off optical center. But with a higher end scope, the effects are less and more importantly, you can also trust the elevation tracking.
Believe me when i say i wish there's a holy grail $500 scope that can replace my higher end scopes, because that would be awesoome and would save me a ton of money. There's a reason high end scopes hold their value in the secondary market much much better than guns/airguns.
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Check this video, it is a comparison of the best 1000$ scopes in the market (per title) These are not cheap scopes but after you see this video you will see difference in the glass, again you got a lot of properties on glass, clarity, sharpness, chromatic aberration, etc. Check the video....
https://youtu.be/wcnikG1Vofc
https://youtu.be/wcnikG1Vofc
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Best glass? Best for what? I shoot relatively short distances with .177 airguns. Scopes with 50yd minimum focus won't do. Actually, I only consider scopes that can focus down to about 10 yards. So none of those "best" scopes would even get a consideration - regardless of price.
About scope glass - Glass quality might enhance the experience, but there are many other aspects that are more important. For instance, I prefer so-so glass with a great reticle rather than great glass with a so-so reticle.
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Well, as you said, different people have different preferences, in my case I was valuing the glass because I want to improve the image on my videos, so yes I need the best glass I can buy, again different people will value different things at a different time.
But the reason I shared this video was to show the OP that there is a difference in glass, even between these high priced scopes. I think that was the discussion about, glass right?
But the reason I shared this video was to show the OP that there is a difference in glass, even between these high priced scopes. I think that was the discussion about, glass right?
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