Scope base recommendation

[rctk1]

I just got a hw95. I plan on adding my hawke airmax 4-12×40 scope, what base with droop compensation do you recommend that wont break the bank? Thanks 

 

[Bear-of-Grayling]

If you look down the receiver when the rifle is sideways and can’t notice obvious barrel droop then you won’t need a mount with droop compensation. My 95 didn’t need one. I have used this mount for years on all my HW’s. Doesn’t damage the gun or scope. Fits perfectly and so does the the stop screw. Why spend more?

 

[biohazardman]

I like the Diana Bullseye mount. It has 20MOA and suspension to keep your scope from being damaged by springer recoil. I trashed at least six scopes, including my Hawke Airmax, on my springers but none after I installed the Bullseye.

https://www.pyramydair.com/product/bullseye-zr-1-pc-mount-fits-1-and-30mm-tubes-11mm-dovetail-0-04-droop?a=5495

https://hardairmagazine.com/news/new-diana-bullseye-zr-scope-mount/

 

[Deerstalker]

HW95L with Hawke 4-16 x 44 mm using Hawke tactical 2 piece medium rings. No drop comp needed. https://us.hawkeoptics.com/tactical-ring-mounts-30mm-2-piece-9-11mm-medium.html

 

[Batman2]

Looks like you know what to expect and not wanting to possibly max out or run out of your elevation turret while zeroing which is typical more oftenn not for all different types of air gun power plant type rifles. Believe it or not alot of air gunners are ignorant about this fact odds are not good so droop compensating mounts are a necessity unless you want to bend your barrel pointing up. Even with fixed barrel under lever springers can and often do exhibit barrel droop. 

Why you think smarter air gun manufacturers offer 20 moa rails all ready built in? For the typical air gun barrel droop phenomenon not necessarily to shoot at farther ranges.

Why you think Element Optics trouble shoot tech support says use adjustable mounts with their brand of scopes? Either scope brand really crappy run out of elevation too quickly or they know typical air gun barrel droop problems commonly found when not using adjustable or droop compensating mounts.

Worst is thinking of adding shims to the rear ring you most definitely never ever want to buy a used scope from that person ever. nor ever buy a scope from any one using Jerry rigged make shift improper adjustable mounts that damage the scope tubes even though they can't even realize they just potentially ruined their scopes.

Diana bullseye mounts as biohazardman stated but you mentioned not wanting to break the bank. AoA probably cheapest for it if you dont order on line and just call to order and ask for a price deal for it USPS shipping in flat rate box.

https://www.airgunsofarizona.com/scope-mounts/diana-bullseye-zero-recoil-mount-1-rings-dovetail/

Or RWS lock down mounts but wont protect your HAWKE BRAND scope from breaking.

https://www.airgunsofarizona.com/scope-mounts/rws-lock-down-1-scope-mount-droop-compensated/

30 mm cheaper if buying in quantity. Buy the 30 mm to 1 inch reducer inserts shop around for cheap like $1 or less a set don't buy the Hawke version too expensive.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/224348466089

If you dont mind saving some money damaged packaged RWS 30 mm lock down droop compensating mounts.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/363702923622?

Insert reducers 30 mm to 1 inch you will need at least 2 sets to do one scope.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/293156931502?var=592025321781

I'd buy the $30 deal comes to less than $1.25 a set shipped and for reference HAWKE sells them for $15 a set. You can share with other members to give them better deals compared to having to buy for $5 shipped for a set on eBay. Perhaps $3 shipped per set in a padded emvelope or charge $1.25 a set plus actual shipping.

Find other uses for them too.

Can try the UTG 11 mm to picatinny with built in droop compensation. Won't protect your HAWKE BRAND scope from breaking.

Spin the wheel for $20 off or use their discount code spend certain amount for free shipping too.

https://www.airgundepot.com/utg-drooper-scope-rail--11mm-to-weaver-adapter.html

Or buy from PA find discount code order enough for free shipping not sure if still $15 off $50 purchase with code or use the 10% off code.

https://www.pyramydair.com/product/utg-drooper-scope-rail-11mm-to-weaver-adapter-compensates-for-droop?a=4191

This is another with 20 moa droop compensating suggest shop around to possibly get it for cheaper else where.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/174467633563



Can also use the HAWKE BRAND user adjustable moa base. Says adjust up to 100 moa.

https://www.opticsplanet.com/hawke-sport-optics-one-piece-11mm-to-weaver-rail-adapter.html

Or pay more for it but has free shipping. Only ONE LEFT IN STOCK.

Base 11mm (Airgun) / 3/8" (Rifle) to Weaver with Elevation, 5.4 inches, 3.9oz https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01MT92GSJ/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_glt_i_T2PCECTM4JVFHZQVPWJT

That was more expensive compared to buying direct from HAWKE.

https://us.hawkeoptics.com/adaptor-base-1-piece-38-dovetail-to-weaver-elevated.html

Sold out on eBay so you know the profit mark up price difference and what kind of wiggle room the HAWKE BRAND dealers have.

https://www.ebay.com/p/2133050140?iid=284155086868

Longer version from eBay.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/283868475053

Shop and price check with shipping charges factored in before buying.

Not the cheapest but custom made not sure if you can request a scope stop screw or stop pin for Springer recoil machined for this one.

https://www.morraccuracy.com/store/p11/Picatinny_Rail_Adapter.html

If the gun already has picatinny and want to add 20 moa droop.

https://www.amazon.com/Leapers-MT-RSX20MOA-Soporte-Picatinny-elevado/dp/B01M1KP7PD/ref=mp_s_a_1_3?

From EBay

https://www.ebay.com/itm/382216555466

Adapters to convert 11m to picatinny.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/263786658338

Another shop around for price with shipping factored in the final cost.

https://hammersbinoculars.stores.yahoo.net/201hainripir.html

Much cheaper different labeled compared to Arken Athlon and Vortex versions.

Gold

https://www.amazon.com/MONTAJE-voladizo-Picatinny-pulgadas-Riflescope/dp/B08YYRH2CQ/ref=mp_s_a_1_16?

Black

https://www.amazon.com/Cantilever-Mount-Scope-1-339-Offset/dp/B0856WZX9M/ref=mp_s_a_1_13?keywords=20+moa+scope+mount&qid=1644098333&sr=8-13

Any one try this one before does it really have 20 moa built in?

https://www.amazon.com/Alcance-Anillos-Montaje-Indicador-Picatinny/dp/B07SSZH34C/ref=mp_s_a_1_13?

I DONT KNOW IF THIS ONE IS ADJUSTABLE FORWARD ANGLE NOT ONLY UP AND DOWN OR IT WILL RUIN YOUR SCOPE.

https://www.amazon.com/Monstrum-Picatinny-ajustables-1-0-di%C3%A1metro/dp/B07L4ZT7CT/ref=mp_s_a_1_26?

Definitely crush - pinch or stress out the scope tube if these can't adjust forward angled.

If you know a machinist to drill and tap the receiver.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/224510046545?

There is another UTG 11 mm to picatinny adapter with 20 moa droop built in for air guns it's a long adapter cost in the $10 price range can use on springers can't find that one at the moment.

 

[rctk1]

Thanks Batman for the very thorough info. All this info should be a sticky especially with the amount of research and time you put into helping me out. 

 

[JungleShooter]

Give Batman2 a green accuracy point! 

This is awesome information!

Matthias

 

[bltefft]

Since I placed Bullseye ZR scope mounts on my springers, none of my scopes have been busted by my springers, even my 460 magnum.

 

[Ramjet]

As was mentioned if you don't see noticeable droop you should be gtg with a static mount.

Another vote for UK SportMatch style mounts.
I like the Leapers version as the arrestor pin is threaded vs a roll pin in the original SportMatch mounts, makes it much easier to get the correct hight for the hole in the receiver.
Could imagine all the Chinese knockoffs are similar to the Leapers though and are threaded for the pin.

 

[Deerstalker]

Excellent rings for a HW95 which will match your scope. https://us.hawkeoptics.com/tactical-ring-mounts-1-2-piece-9-11mm-medium.html

 

[SteveP-52]

Hawke Airmax 4-12x40 scope in BKL double strap rings on my HW95 .22. I've also got a Beeman R9 .20 caliber which is the same rifles and has the same scope mounted on it only I used a set of reversed Hawke Reach Forward Match Mounts. The Airmax should easily take the recoil from a 15-16fpe rifle, it's what they were designed and built for...lol.
Neither has given me any problems and while others mileage may well vary, neither of mine had barrel droop to speak of let alone needing droop compensating mounts.