S&B 12-50 MkII vs. Kahles 10-50 FT vs. March 10-60 HM for BR/FT

[cavedweller]

Well, them aint really budget friendly scopes. Folks buying those kinda scopes usually don't got a budget. Now if you'd looked through a march and fell in love with it, that would be one thing. But for a .177 cal rifle, some might say (myself included) that you may be impulse buying to make yourself feel good. I'm guilty of doing that myself. I aint you, but I've been where you're at, and i gotta say, for the $ the Athlon Ares 15-60 sitting on my pellet gun, is just as good of a tool as any of the 3 scopes you've listed, and you can use the rest of your budget to buy 2 or 3 more of em after you fall in love with the first one. This response won't set well with many, and i can probably list at least 5 that will respond to this comment with how wrong i am. That's ok, to each their own, but at the end of the day spending 3-5K on a scope won't make any gun shoot better.

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I've never spent time behind a Khales, but I have the other two, and for what we are doing with these guns as far as FT ranging, and benchrest target, i've been real happy with the above made suggestion.

I’ve found for <20 HFT at age 67 that more numbers along the reticle really helps

 

[cavedweller]

How does it do for rangefinding in field target situations?

I've heard very good things about the Valdadas but never in a field target setting. Since this scope needs to do both, I leaned toward scopes with some field target background.

I’ve selected the Sightron 4-20x50 s-tac with mh4, reticle not a high end scope

 

[PianoGun]

Hey there, I know this is an old post. But I do have a question. I have a Delta Stryker 5-50x56. I like it and it does shift with temperature slightly. I have measured it and I can compensate for POI with an offset chart. It works. However, I have been thinking of getting another scope as I am hoping that I can avoid this conversion chart while I shoot. I tried a Trijicon Tenmile 5-5-x56 and it is the same thing. I tried a Sightron S3 and it is the same thing. I am now thinking of a Kahles K1050iFT or a March High Master. Does anyone have tried both the Kahles or the March HM and have input for temperature change? I do not want to spend $$$ only to find out it is the same for Temp shift?

 

[dgeesaman]

@SDstephan might be able to comment

 

[SDstephan]

I did not have the Khales long enough to confirm it shifts, but I am certain it does.
The Delta did - I concur.
The March does shift and it's caught me out a few times until my suspicions were confirmed.

The search for the Holy Grail continues

 

[PianoGun]

I did not have the Khales long enough to confirm it shifts, but I am certain it does.
The Delta did - I concur.
The March does shift and it's caught me out a few times until my suspicions were confirmed.

The search for the Holy Grail continues

What? I thought the Holy Grail does exist!

Stephan, is there a low light performance difference between the two? Which one measures in one yard increments at a distance after 48 yards? How long have you had the Kahles and in all things being equal where you would spend your money on?
Thank you,
Eric

 

[Motorhead]

What? I thought the Holy Grail does exist!

Stephan, is there a low light performance difference between the two? Which one measures in one yard increments at a distance after 48 yards? How long have you had the Kahles and in all things being equal where you would spend your money on?
Thank you,
Eric

ATHILON HERA SPR series in SFP ... my self have tested, a good friend doing freezer to open sun heated has tested & we both found the parrilax focus to a scaled side wheel remained very consistent, actually more so than all the other scopes we both own that we use/or have tried in the FT game .... IMPRESSIVE !!

I own several S&B PM II optics ... and while STELLAR GLASS, they too parrilax drift off scale cold to hot