To the OP, higher quality rings can justify higher prices by use of better alloy (7075 vs the cheaper 6061) or even moving up to steel rings, better quality hardware including clamps and screws, and various levels of quality control. Kelbly’s uses matched ring and cap sets with orientation markings and serialization, and 419 produces a complete ring with an undersized mounting hole, then line bores them together to final size for example.

Mounting a scope in a quality ring is akin to driving a luxury automobile; the scope can still move freely, but the tolerances are held so tight it kind of sticks in place before the fasteners are even torqued. Makes leveling and tightening a breeze. There is a higher expectation that the rings will not allow movement, will not induce bending or twisting forces, or crush a scope tube, and that fasteners will not strip or yield.

Clearly those attributes are not universally necessary, however the options exist for challenging applications and discerning users, not strictly to separate fools from their money.

People subscribe to philosophies on how much a scope should cost relative to a rifle, but rarely do I hear about mount cost relative to the cost of the scope. Off the cuff I would venture that 10% of scope cost should be spent on the rings in most situations.

As to the Burris inserts, the windage correction does largely address rails or bases that are out of alignment with the barrel, but I have also witnessed sloppy machining of the main rings requiring up to 15MOA to correct the rings themselves.
 
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I've had two instances where cheap rings failed me. Both times, the scope appeared to run out of adjustment. This has happened before and I would reverse the rings and all good, but twice they were so bad that I had to trash them. Twice, but I've probably gone through a couple hundred rings of various types so I'm still a fan of the cheap rings.

The latest was with a .17 HMR, not an airgun. Had some ultra cheap rings on and couldnt get enough windage out of the scope. Reset, optically centered the scope and tried again. Same result. Swapped rings around to the other side and still wonky. Tossed them and got a 'decent' set. Monstrum rings that were around $30. I will admit that I've spent near 50 bucks before for some specialty rings, but $200? Nah... Got some $50 rings on my 6.5 Cmoor and I can bust a 6 inch steel plate with it at 900 yards. Dont need much more than that.
 
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I've had two instances where cheap rings failed me. Both times, the scope appeared to run out of adjustment. This has happened before and I would reverse the rings and all good, but twice they were so bad that I had to trash them. Twice, but I've probably gone through a couple hundred rings of various types so I'm still a fan of the cheap rings.

The latest was with a .17 HMR, not an airgun. Had some ultra cheap rings on and couldnt get enough windage out of the scope. Reset, optically centered the scope and tried again. Same result. Swapped rings around to the other side and still wonky. Tossed them and got a 'decent' set. Monstrum rings that were around $30. I will admit that I've spent near 50 bucks before for some specialty rings, but $200? Nah... Got some $50 rings on my 6.5 Cmoor and I can bust a 6 inch steel plate with it at 900 yards. Dont need much more than that.
I did shim a $15 cantilever once. But the scope was the 3-9x40 that came on a Gamo or Umarex break barrel. So no telling where the problem originated.
 
I did shim a $15 cantilever once. But the scope was the 3-9x40 that came on a Gamo or Umarex break barrel. So no telling where the problem originated.
yep.... and to be fair, I dont consider elevation (if that was the shimming you referred to) as an issue. I've shimmed many a rings... but the two instances I mentioned were windage related. I got rid of a ton of rings a couple Hickory shows ago. Literally giving some away to folks. That was 2-3 years ago and I again have a box full of various rings. Seems I always need a different set for whatever I'm doing. Part of the fun of the hobby!
 
yep.... and to be fair, I dont consider elevation (if that was the shimming you referred to) as an issue. I've shimmed many a rings... but the two instances I mentioned were windage related. I got rid of a ton of rings a couple Hickory shows ago. Literally giving some away to folks. That was 2-3 years ago and I again have a box full of various rings. Seems I always need a different set for whatever I'm doing. Part of the fun of the hobby!
I have no idea of what you mean.
I would never order too many of anything or order the wrong rings.

1 box, there is another with dovetail cantilever. And a couple scopes
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yep.... and to be fair, I dont consider elevation (if that was the shimming you referred to) as an issue. I've shimmed many a rings... but the two instances I mentioned were windage related. I got rid of a ton of rings a couple Hickory shows ago. Literally giving some away to folks. That was 2-3 years ago and I again have a box full of various rings. Seems I always need a different set for whatever I'm doing. Part of the fun of the hobby!
Stopped having to shim when I started using adjustable rings.

Never had issue with windage but I haven't shot further than 50 yards more than 3 or 4 times in the last 15 years.
 
I might pay big bucks for a good set of blingy domestically machined rings if I had the proportionally costlier scope to match and justify the purchase. I mean why not? We sht our money away on more idiotic things, so whatever floats your boat.

As it is I'm not discerning enough to be able to detect the functional differences between a $30 set and something costing 3 or 4X more. Mechanically clamping a tube to a receiver is hardly rocket science, so it's pretty hard to screw that up.
 
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To each his own that's what's great. I run sphur and Hawkins with diving boards for prs. Well used to but don't compete now in that arena. I usually run mdt on most everything from air rifles and up. I prefer quality over savings. I will save up a little longer to get it. I will say the UTG pros are a great set of rings in dovetail I used on my piston guns. Nothing wrong with other brands but I've had my share of cheaper ones break.
 
Mechanically clamping a tube to a receiver is hardly rocket science, so it's pretty hard to screw that up.
And there it is.
You not have to save up to buy scope rings.

18 in lbs on the scope, 30 in lbs on the receiver (usually) and the scope never moves. I've got $15 cantilever on my AEA Terminator, an absolute beast, and at most a few clicks due to environment. Scope never moves.

I don't have a gun where any ring causes issues. Not one, never have. Well, other than one I shimmed for elevation.

If they break, you slap on your spare rings, resight, back to what you were doing. Because like orings, fittings, screws etc, rings belong in your spares. But mine never break.

Most I have ever spent is 29.95 for Westhunter Adjustable Rings. Some rings have been $4.
 
I've had two instances where cheap rings failed me. Both times, the scope appeared to run out of adjustment. This has happened before and I would reverse the rings and all good, but twice they were so bad that I had to trash them. Twice, but I've probably gone through a couple hundred rings of various types so I'm still a fan of the cheap rings.

The latest was with a .17 HMR, not an airgun. Had some ultra cheap rings on and couldnt get enough windage out of the scope. Reset, optically centered the scope and tried again. Same result. Swapped rings around to the other side and still wonky. Tossed them and got a 'decent' set. Monstrum rings that were around $30. I will admit that I've spent near 50 bucks before for some specialty rings, but $200? Nah... Got some $50 rings on my 6.5 Cmoor and I can bust a 6 inch steel plate with it at 900 yards. Dont need much more than that.
The most I've spent on was $70 for the FX adjustable rings and they are trash, they dont hold a candle to the $16 monstrum adjustable rings. The second most expensive were arken low height rings which are really nice, but they aren't anything specially and dont do anything the $16-$30 rings I've bought from Arken can do.
 
The most I've spent on was $70 for the FX adjustable rings and they are trash, they dont hold a candle to the $16 monstrum adjustable rings. The second most expensive were arken low height rings which are really nice, but they aren't anything specially and dont do anything the $16-$30 rings I've bought from Arken can do.
I did get a used set of FX Adjustable, and they've been 'ok'. I dont begrudge anyone for spending their coin on whatever they want... Just for me, I've not found a need nor want to spend $200 on rings. I'll take my $30 rings and spend $170 on hookers and booze!
 
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,cheap rings are cheap for a reason,you have to spend $10 more then do it,anything over $80 is BS ,just a personal want and not a need.Does not matter how much you spend if you do not know how to mount them properly.I think you pretty much need proper scope mounting tools to do a proper job .
This becomes more important than about anything else,some people chasing the right pellet,finally finding ot scope mounting was the problem....
Do you feel lucky or do you feel satisfied you mounted the scope right?Well do you:ROFLMAO:
 
,cheap rings are cheap for a reason,you have to spend $10 more then do it,anything over $80 is BS ,just a personal want and not a need.Does not matter how much you spend if you do not know how to mount them properly.I think you pretty much need proper scope mounting tools to do a proper job .
This becomes more important than about anything else,some people chasing the right pellet,finally finding ot scope mounting was the problem....
Do you feel lucky or do you feel satisfied you mounted the scope right?Well do you:ROFLMAO:
I've have $4 Chinese rings on a couple guns. Absolutely no issues with them. Why wouldn't they be fine. 4 blocks of aluminum machined on a computer controlled mill. Torqued down to 30/18.

I'd bet there is so little difference as to be almost unmeasurable.

Haven't bought any of them in a year at least. Like the colors available for Westhunter Adjustable Rings.
 
I did get a used set of FX Adjustable, and they've been 'ok'. I dont begrudge anyone for spending their coin on whatever they want... Just for me, I've not found a need nor want to spend $200 on rings. I'll take my $30 rings and spend $170 on hookers and booze!
I hear ya, I'm one the same boat except for the hpoker part 😂
I've have $4 Chinese rings on a couple guns. Absolutely no issues with them. Why wouldn't they be fine. 4 blocks of aluminum machined on a computer controlled mill. Torqued down to 30/18.

I'd bet there is so little difference as to be almost unmeasurable.

Haven't bought any of them in a year at least. Like the colors available for Westhunter Adjustable Rings.
You know, I know those west hunter rings are okay, but I feel that the color options makes it cheaper.
 
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