Review of the Redesigned .177 JSB Monster pellets

Here's my unscientific review of the "Redesigned" .177 Monster pellet from JSB. After waiting for months while my order of the new design Monster was on back order, I finally received a couple of tins and did a little comparison of the original vs. new design.

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I first weighed individual pellets from both designs. Similar to the original design pellet, only around 30% of the redesigned Monster pellets in the tin were actually 13.4 gr. Some were heavier or lighter give or take a tenth of a grain. That may not be a big deal, but just for consistency I only used 13.4 gr. from both the original and new design for this test.

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The change of pellet shape from old to new is obvious, but the skirt of the redesigned Monster looks identical to the original. The redesigned tin of pellets I sorted seemed a bit dirtier than the original design tin I sorted, as my fingers were dark gray by then end of handling 400 pellets one by one.

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Off to the sight in range! Weather was overcast with practically no wind and temperature around 54°. I'm testing these pellets with a non-regulated Gen 1 Marauder with a LW barrel, from a table with a bipod attached. My scope is a UTG 12x, and I did not adjust or click my scope in any way during this test. My Marauder is tuned for Hunter Field Target 20FPE. I recorded the velocity of each shot of my groups shot at 55 yds. Before shooting each group of pellets I filled the gun to 2700 lbs. First I shot a small group at my 25 yd. zero with each type of pellet. As you can see, the original Monsters were on zero, and the new designed Monsters shot a bit lower- about 1/4" lower. I noticed the new design pellet fits a bit tighter in the breach than the original.

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At 55 yds I filled the rifle back up to 2700 lbs. for each group. I shot two, 10 round groups of each pellet design at 55 yds. As you can see, my best group from the original design pellet was slightly better at 7/8", but I had a couple of fliers that I can not explain. The redesigned Monster group was 1".

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The velocity from each group was similar and I didn't see a big difference there.

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So what are your thoughts? Which would you use?
Next step will be to test my grouping of original Monster vs. new Monsters in the wind.

Thanks for reading,
Philip Hepler
Member of the Tar Heel Air Gun Club- hosts of the 2018 AAFTA Field Target Nationals

 
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Phelper thanks for info. I have a box of tin coming in the next few days. I am always looking for a .177 with a high BC as possible. That said the older monsters did not perform well out of my FX impact. The older monsters would cork screw alot once 45 yards game into play. Anyway, what do you think the BC is of these newer pellets ?
My most accurate pellet in .177 out of the impact so far is my 10.3 diablo. The pile drivers 21 grain have a high BC but just do not want to hold at 50 yards. The pile drivers also cork screw as well.

What does your gun like the best ?

jay
 
Jaydog, my M-rod likes the JSB exact heavies 10.3 and the monsters 13.4. Only reason I switched to the monsters was the hopes of bucking the wind a bit more. I use these for Field Target Hunter class. I'm unsure of the BC of the new vs. old pellets. I'm going to test more before I decide. I failed to note that although the weight varies from pellet to pellet in a tin, the quality is quite good. I can't remember the last time I found a JSB monster with a bent or deformed skirt. I do not have a head sizer to compare that info. Thanks!
 
I just ordered a tin of these to try on my LGV. Thanks for the detaled review! I will have to report back how they fair. 

Jimmy, I would be happy to ship you a farmer’s dozen (when I get them) if you want to try them before buying them. Just PM me.


Christian

Thanks for the offer man. You're too kind. I'm getting ready to order a sleeve of the originals for the ol' Thomas. I can't imagine these shooting better, but you never know? I'll probably try some in the Cricket as well, and see if that CZ barrel likes em? So, I better just order a tin of the redesigned because I'm sure it will take many groups to make my mind up if they are anywhere as close as Philips groups are?

Jimmy
 
Sure thing Jimmy. I’m gonna have to be on the lookout for your report. I’m particularly interested in how they do out of that Cricket 🦗 .

Christian, I was gonna place an order with Jim & Nancy at Precision Air this morning, but they only have 4 tins of the regular Monsters. Guess I'll have to get off my duff and place a $150+ order with the ol' 10% discount with Pyramyd Air. Gotta sit down and cypher out my best deal! LOL

I'll let ya know how it goes when they come in.
 
-Update-

After shooting the "redesigned" Monsters all year in Field Target, I'm convinced they are slightly better than the original design in MY rifle. 

I believe they hold a better group at 50 yds and beyond. It's not uncommon for me to put 6 in a nickel size group at 55 yds on a calm day- shooting from sticks. Of course it could be that I'm a slightly better shooter than I was back in December.

I've also started weighing my pellets with good results. For a match I only shoot the same weight to the tenth grain. In a average tin I'll find mostly 13.4, 13.5 gr pellets. Anything lighter or heavier I use for offhand practice. I haven't got into sizing pellets. Maybe weighing them is a waste of my time, but in my head it seems to make a difference.

-Dead Eye
 
Felt I needed to edit this post 11/5/18. Checked distance today with rangefinder and it was 55 yds instead of 50 yds ! LOL



Well, I got a special delivery from Pyramyd this morning. I think I'll be sticking with the regular monsters?

First of all the redesigned were too big to fit flush into the leade of the barrel on my Thomas. I didn't have a pellet seat handy and I was worried it might shave the o-ring on my swing port? So I grabbed my trusty 4.53 mm pellet sizer and sized each one to fit. They fit smooth into the leade then.

It was really too windy for testing today and I shot these from the bench , with bipod and rear bag. I just don't have "Dead Eye's" skills ;-)

I couldn't tell much difference at 28 yds? But when I took it out to 50 yds the redesigned groups were so bad I stopped after the second group.

KZ is 1/4" and the squares are 5/8". I've shot much better on a calm day.



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Like I said, when I took it out to fifty, the wind was just too much to deal with. Top three groups are the regular and bottom two groups fell apart with the redesigned? Don't know if resizing them to fit had anything to do with it or not? Oh well, I tried?



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Christian, I'll try to get some data on the Cricket rifle another day.

On a good note earlier this morning in dead calm I tried three 5 shot groups at 50 yds with my .22 Cricket Bullpup. First two groups on either side of my thumb were ok, but I wasn't impressed. It's shooting the 18 gr JSB's at roughly 930 fps.

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Then the next pic (3rd group) doesn't look like much, but there's actually 4 pellets stacked in that little hole with the 5th shot flying just above. When the pellets stack like that they always punch through the metal drum at 30+ foot pounds. That would be my best ever 5 shot group at 50 yds with .22 Cal Kalibrgun Cricket pup.

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So sometimes the stars align here at Camp Fussell and it actually looks like I can shoot???? LOL
 
Christian, I jumped out there in the wind just for a quick check with the Cricket Carbine. I've got it set up for the 10.3 gr.

The Regular Monsters didn't do so well and the redesigned didn't either? It was just a quicky and didn't bother with the Chrono, but I'm sure I would have to turn the speed up on those 13 grain pellets to make a difference. Plus on the carbine , you have to take it our of the stock to adjust the hammer spring.