Reticle questions

I'm looking for a new 4-16 ish range scope and was looking at Athlon reticles, along with others and it hit me. Does anyone really use al those tiny graduations on the reticle. I mean 1/2 mildot is ok, and I would say 5 moa marks are plenty don't you think? I'm beginning to hate Christmas tree reticles, as they are just too busy for me, especially the dot trees, the crossbar trees are better, but overkill in my mind.

I'd like to see a reticle similar to Hawke's AMX, but with a tiny bit thicker crosshairs and a very thin center cross or small dot. Vector Veyron 10x44 has a reticle similar to this also.

What's your preference for reticles?
 
I'm looking for a new 4-16 ish range scope and was looking at Athlon reticles, along with others and it hit me. Does anyone really use al those tiny graduations on the reticle. I mean 1/2 mildot is ok, and I would say 5 moa marks are plenty don't you think? I'm beginning to hate Christmas tree reticles, as they are just too busy for me, especially the dot trees, the crossbar trees are better, but overkill in my mind.

I'd like to see a reticle similar to Hawke's AMX, but with a tiny bit thicker crosshairs and a very thin center cross or small dot. Vector Veyron 10x44 has a reticle similar to this also.

What's your preference for reticles?
Take a look at the Blackhound Genisis, great scope for the money. I have 2 of the 6-24
 
I'm looking for a new 4-16 ish range scope and was looking at Athlon reticles, along with others and it hit me. Does anyone really use al those tiny graduations on the reticle. I mean 1/2 mildot is ok, and I would say 5 moa marks are plenty don't you think? I'm beginning to hate Christmas tree reticles, as they are just too busy for me, especially the dot trees, the crossbar trees are better, but overkill in my mind.

I'd like to see a reticle similar to Hawke's AMX, but with a tiny bit thicker crosshairs and a very thin center cross or small dot. Vector Veyron 10x44 has a reticle similar to this also.

What's your preference for reticles?
Same, i don't use the windage holdoff dots. In the VPR/APR reticles. I prefer the VHR type reticles. Same MRAD/MOA incremented reticles. NO christmas tree or other holdoff
 
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I'm looking for a new 4-16 ish range scope and was looking at Athlon reticles, along with others and it hit me. Does anyone really use al those tiny graduations on the reticle. I mean 1/2 mildot is ok, and I would say 5 moa marks are plenty don't you think? I'm beginning to hate Christmas tree reticles, as they are just too busy for me, especially the dot trees, the crossbar trees are better, but overkill in my mind.

I'd like to see a reticle similar to Hawke's AMX, but with a tiny bit thicker crosshairs and a very thin center cross or small dot. Vector Veyron 10x44 has a reticle similar to this also.

What's your preference for reticles?
If you use the reticle to estimate range and game sizes perhaps. I have the element christmas tree and I don't use it as much as I used to, I really like the arken reticle on the 4-16x44. So much so I'm looking to divest from as many of my vortex, weaver, leupolds as I can to have my entire collection wearing the same or similar scopes in ffp.

I tune almost all or my guns for high power and wind isn't as much of a issue and I've been practicing just guessing wind dope a lot more recently without the dots. My opinions have changed a lot in the last few years too.
 
I'm looking for a new 4-16 ish range scope and was looking at Athlon reticles, along with others and it hit me. Does anyone really use al those tiny graduations on the reticle. I mean 1/2 mildot is ok, and I would say 5 moa marks are plenty don't you think? I'm beginning to hate Christmas tree reticles, as they are just too busy for me, especially the dot trees, the crossbar trees are better, but overkill in my mind.

I'd like to see a reticle similar to Hawke's AMX, but with a tiny bit thicker crosshairs and a very thin center cross or small dot. Vector Veyron 10x44 has a reticle similar to this also.

What's your preference for reticles?
haven't found a reticle that is not to thick or red dot not small enough yet . Even "irons " the front sight post on a pistol is 4 or 5 times thicker than the 10 ring on targes i shoot .
 
Use really does dictate if or not hold points are required at all ?
As a competitive Hunter class FT shooter, absolutely !!! Busy as it looks having .2 mil marks between full mil marks is fabulous :giggle:
Tho ...If staying inside realistic distances plinking and just general light pesting etc .... a simple duplex reticle with practice on minor hold correction with estimated distances can be made to work quite satisfactory ... IMO
 
I'm looking for a new 4-16 ish range scope and was looking at Athlon reticles, along with others and it hit me. Does anyone really use al those tiny graduations on the reticle. I mean 1/2 mildot is ok, and I would say 5 moa marks are plenty don't you think? I'm beginning to hate Christmas tree reticles, as they are just too busy for me, especially the dot trees, the crossbar trees are better, but overkill in my mind.

I'd like to see a reticle similar to Hawke's AMX, but with a tiny bit thicker crosshairs and a very thin center cross or small dot. Vector Veyron 10x44 has a reticle similar to this also.

What's your preference for reticles?
This may help.
https://www.rimfirecentral.com/d3/pdf/rfcftp/optics/StandardReticlePatterns2012.pdf
 
I like having plenty of what I call "tic marks" on the reticle. I mostly shoot paper targets and if a shot goes high or wide it is useful to compare the POI to the aim point so I can hold a compensating amount for the next shot. It isn't important to me the value of the reticle mark, the importance is just a reference point. I have scopes with simpler reticles but for future purchases I will buy ones with more complex markings. But I respect that others have different preferences.
 
When I was shooting long range powder burners I preferred the Xmas tree reticle. I have a Leupold Mark 4 with the Horus 57 (?) reticle that is great. When getting into pcp guns I started going with the same type reticle. Now changing my preference and going more to simple left and right hash marks. Seems unnecessary to have all that going on visually and will probably never need all those marks.
 
When I was shooting long range powder burners I preferred the Xmas tree reticle. I have a Leupold Mark 4 with the Horus 57 (?) reticle that is great. When getting into pcp guns I started going with the same type reticle. Now changing my preference and going more to simple left and right hash marks. Seems unnecessary to have all that going on visually and will probably never need all those marks.
g1 coefficient of a 55 m193 ball flat base Spitzer is .243. Your average..22 slug at 30gr is about .095 and moving 1/3 of the speed... compared to a 193 out of a 14.5". If you plan on trying to thwack golf.ball.sized heads or golf ball sized birds at any range past 75 they're helpful. I use Christmas trees on anything I hunt past 75y with. VHR type reticles... the mil or minute hashed crosshairs sans Christmas trees are what youre describing.
 
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I'm looking for a new 4-16 ish range scope and was looking at Athlon reticles, along with others and it hit me. Does anyone really use al those tiny graduations on the reticle. I mean 1/2 mildot is ok, and I would say 5 moa marks are plenty don't you think? I'm beginning to hate Christmas tree reticles, as they are just too busy for me, especially the dot trees, the crossbar trees are better, but overkill in my mind.

I'd like to see a reticle similar to Hawke's AMX, but with a tiny bit thicker crosshairs and a very thin center cross or small dot. Vector Veyron 10x44 has a reticle similar to this also.

What's your preference for reticles?

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Using that mh-ft reticle example just pretend you have a 15 mph full value wind at 75y and don't have time to dial the solution, neither elevation or windage.

You'd be aiming with a guess way off the reticle for windage lacking any exact holdoff point in the reticle to take advantage of.
That's where tree reticles come into their own. You can get used to tree reticles and appreciate what they have to offer by using them a lot. Most of my scopes are such.

Yes those .2 mil hashes can be used for high precision and I've proven so to myself by winning two long range championships holding over and off with the Horus H59 reticle. Though I did dial on occasion especially on the 1450Y steel.

My favorite 'simple' reticle is in my Meopta Optika 6 5-30x56 scope. The Mil Dot 3 is thicker than many reticles and the IQ in these scopes is better than pretty much all the other scopes in it's price range. I think they have a 3-18x50 version too
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Also the old SWFA 3-15's with the Milquad reticle is a simple one.
 
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