Airforce Regulating an older model Air Force Condor

[Brassbaboon]

Hi, I am new here. I searched for posts on regulating the Air Force Condor and found a couple, but one recommended the PCP Tunes regulator, which I have seen several warnings about elsewhere, and the other was from 2020, so I'm not sure the info in that post is still relevant.

I have an older model Air Force Condor, I don't recall exactly when I bought it, but it was over ten years ago. It's old enough that the bottle that came with it has no pressure gauge, if that helps narrow it down.

I have had a lot of fun with the gun over the years, but I've always been a little frustrated by the rapid pressure drop which typically means I might get fifteen shots out of it before the impact point starts to drop at any distance over 20 yards or so. I did put it away for a while, and have recently begun using it again. In the meantime it appears that regulating this thing is the way to deal with the limited number of consistent shots. I see people reporting getting 40 - 50 consistent shots from one refill.

Is there a definitive guide for regulating the Condor? What I see is that something like the PCP Tunes product extends the stock bottle to the point that it can be uncomfortable to shoulder. I've seen multiple Youtube videos of people using 4,500 to 5,000 PSI carbon fiber tanks regulated down to around 2,000 PSI and those tanks are short enough to not be uncomfortable to shoulder.

Anyway, I'm just hoping to get some helpful advice on what to do with this gun. I am also interested in the best way to refill the bottles, all I have is the original Air Force hand pump, which is much less fun in my 60s than it was in my 50s...

Thanks in advance.

 

[Mike_Lenardon]

I installed an Etac reg on my condor YEARS ago. It didn't look at all like these but like I said it was years ago. With the new bottle valves and ring lock system it's easy to tune them without a regulator. But you may want to check these guys out

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[hotspark]

I have a newer condor with the ring loc valve on the bottle, if you're shooting pellets and put a smaller orifice top hat on, it will definitely slow things down (better accuracy in my case) and up your shot count. I looked into regulators for it and decided because of the added length and lack of a plenum to go tethered with a inline regulator.

 

[Dog]

I have the old Talon SS, no gauges, dead simple. I run on a twenty shot curve using the chrony and simple hammer spring preload wheel. Like my old single shot 30-06, I try for one shot kills I get more power out of my unregulated rifles but more (slower) shots out of my regulated rifle. Now I want 4.5k psi bottles to keep that regulator happier in the long run... I would suggest to step back and just use a rifle for the type shooting you want.