Ruger Recoil in a spring piston break barrel

[Twiceshy]

Is the recoil changed by using lighter or heavier pellets? Lighter pellets lighter recoil, heaver pellets heavier recoil? Does that recoil change the point of impact from the point of aim? Again, I am shooting a spring piston break barrel. Trying to get tighter and more consistent groups.

 

[Jay308]

Need to test different pellets and weights to see what your rifle likes. Springers are finicky and more budget versions are even more so. They also need to be held in the same spot everytime, if you’re using a front bag, hold the rifle and rest the back of your hand on the bag.

Whats the model you’re shooting? What pellets have you tried?

 

[Kgphotos]

I’m no springer expert but I’ll give you my opinion. Technically yes, a heavier pellet probably has more recoil than a lighter pellet. However it really won’t be noticed as the minuscule difference in recoil will be eclipsed my the much much heavier recoil of the piston being slammed forward by the massive spring. Now as far as point of impact difference between a light pellet and a heavy pellet is concerned, the lighter pellet will be traveling faster and that will most likely cause differences in POI. Hope this helps,
Kenny

 

[Hateful McNasty]

I guess mine feel pretty close to the same regardless of pellet. I could not tell if it was a 14 or 18 or a 7 or 10 grain used .. lol

The end run is the 3 P's of air guns

Practice patience and plenty of pellets ( i guess thats 4 P's )

Just get out there and shoot , shoot ,shoot.

 

[Twiceshy]

Need to test different pellets and weights to see what your rifle likes. Springers are finicky and more budget versions are even more so. They also need to be held in the same spot everytime, if you’re using a front bag, hold the rifle and rest the back of your hand on the bag.

Whats the model you’re shooting? What pellets have you tried?

I am shooting a .177 Ruger Blackhawk. Have tried the Crossman domed and piranhas both in the 10.5 grain range. tried some Barra mule domed (more pointed) definitely not a good fit for this rifle. currently trying out some RWS domed and wad cutters. The wad cutters seem to be the best so far, yet I have not tried the super domed. I am using a front bag and working on keeping the same pressure into my shoulder, cheek weld and both eyes open with the scope. Only shooting 67 feet, (my back yard limit).

 

[maxtrouble]

I am shooting a .177 Ruger Blackhawk. Have tried the Crossman domed and piranhas both in the 10.5 grain range. tried some Barra mule domed (more pointed) definitely not a good fit for this rifle. currently trying out some RWS domed and wad cutters. The wad cutters seem to be the best so far, yet I have not tried the super domed. I am using a front bag and working on keeping the same pressure into my shoulder, cheek weld and both eyes open with the scope. Only shooting 67 feet, (my back yard limit).

Have you cleaned your barrel? Easy to do. Great results. Have you tried the JSB 10.3 or H&N 10.65's? They are great pellets if your rifle likes them. The 10.3's seem to have the edge in most of my .177's. Awesome pellet. I suggest trying that one first.

 

[Hateful McNasty]

That blackhawk seems liked around .

Ruger Blackhawk .177 - Airguns & Guns Forum

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Springer needs a little tlc like a barrel cleaning as maxtrouble said. Especially if new out of the box of factory cruds ...

Then breakin as i put it go shoot ,shoot ,shoot .. the gun will settle in and you will get more accustomed to its nature and before you know it youll bf hitting good shots ..

Remember.. rome was not built in a day .

 

[Jay308]

Have you cleaned your barrel? Easy to do. Great results. Have you tried the JSB 10.3 or H&N 10.65's? They are great pellets if your rifle likes them. The 10.3's seem to have the edge in most of my .177's. Awesome pellet. I suggest trying that one first.

I second the H&N baracuda 10.65 or JSB 10.3 exact heavy diabolo.

 

[readyfisher9]

Have you cleaned your barrel? Easy to do. Great results. Have you tried the JSB 10.3 or H&N 10.65's? They are great pellets if your rifle likes them. The 10.3's seem to have the edge in most of my .177's. Awesome pellet. I suggest trying that one first.

For my faster spring guns ( FWB Sport .177, HW97K .177, HW98 .177) I like the HN Barracuda Match 10.65.

 

[JP806TX]

I've tried 10.3, 8.44 and 7.9 grains in my TX 200.
As stated by others, subjectively, felt recoil...nothing noticeable.

Down range, there were difference in POIs and group sizes.

These guys are competitive Field Target shooters and they were testing different pellets sub 12 FPE with PCP.

I know they are not shooting springers but I think the take away message is still the same. accuracy and wind performance are the determining factors in pellet choice.

As a non-hunter, I'll just add that I tune my springers for smooth consistent recoil, then I match my pellet to the tune.

tricks over the years for recoil management:
1. slip washer (in front of the top hat for the TX)
2. heavier stock
3. lighten your trigger.
4. right fit/tolerance for spring guides and top hats.
5. Lighten your piston...(still testing this one, right now the result ia a faster shot cycle for the TX, less recoil? improved accuracy? pending)

 

[Bear-of-Grayling]

Technically speaking, Springers do not have “recoil”. The gun moves forward as the piston slams forward. The heavier the pellet the more resistance is applied against the piston. So, actually the heavier the pellet, the more taming to the firing behavior. Heavier pellets calm down Springers. You should try to find an accurate pellet that shoots in 700- 750 fps (800fps tops) range. (for magnums) This is the optimal speed for accuracy and firing behavior for a Springer. FWIW

 

[maxtrouble]

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[MDriskill]

Another critical factor IMHO is how the pellet skirt mates up to the breech leade. I always test several different pellets in a given gun, and pay attention to how they feel, independent of what the chrono says. Examples:

+ My 1990's R7 has a short leade chamfered at a fairly abrupt angle. It shoots well enough with RWS Hobbys (thick skirt, hard lead, diameter about .184), but is MUCH smoother - and faster too - with 7.3 gr JSB Exacts (thin skirt, soft lead, diameter about .180). The difference is downright startling...a near-recoilless laser gun with the JSB's.

+ Same with my FWB 65, a sledge-type "recoilless" pistol. It has a similar short leade, and is truly much more recoil-free with JSB 7.3's than Hobbys.

+ As an extreme in the other direction, my Weihrauch HW 55 from the 1960's has a long tapered leade (HW did this on purpose with a pointed mandrel). The classic RWS designs (Hobby, Superdome, Meisterkugeln, etc.) have about the biggest skirts out there, and it's basically pointless to shoot other brands in this rifle. Light pellets with smallish skirts feel almost like a dry-fire.

 

[Twiceshy]

That blackhawk seems liked around .

Ruger Blackhawk .177 - Airguns & Guns Forum

Ruger Blackhawk .177, Air guns, Airgun Forum

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Springer needs a little tlc like a barrel cleaning as maxtrouble said. Especially if new out of the box of factory cruds ...

Then breakin as i put it go shoot ,shoot ,shoot .. the gun will settle in and you will get more accustomed to its nature and before you know it youll bf hitting good shots ..

Remember.. rome was not built in a day .

Thank you for the article, I read it and now I feel much better about my Blackhawk. It's not the piece of crap many have led me to believe!

 

[Hateful McNasty]

Thank you for the article, I read it and now I feel much better about my Blackhawk. It's not the piece of crap many have led me to believe!

It's not bad . Im sure theres the lemons but what don't ...

Just shoot it and check it over every so often (500+/- shots) loose screws or what not . Maybe run another patch down the barrel to mop up any excess bloeing out or whatever . I think your ok with it as a fun gun to plink around with .

So get oit there and go shopg and enjoy .