Put me on that list.
Craig
Sure! if you will PM me with your email I can get Leah to send you over a dealer application in the morning!
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Put me on that list.
Craig
Put me on that list.
Craig
Sure! if you will PM me with your email I can get Leah to send you over a deal application in the morning!
BB do you have any contacts for folks who were doing tactical setups on thier rapids? I would be interest in purchasing something if it is done right. Also is the Rapid owners club site down?
Thanks - Brian
to rapid air weapons.
I think the big appeal of raw when martin was handleing it was the the customer got to talk to martin and go over ideas with him on his or her build.
I honestly feel if martin was able to set aside 1 day a week for emails and to talk to customers over the phone about a build would do wonders for sales.
and keep people interested...… martin is a true air gun guru. he knows his stuff and people know that about him.
and there was nothing like it in the ag world to be able to talk to the builder.... I think that is the part we all all missing. and this page has really slowed down
even including my self I only come on here once a year now... but when martin was running it I was on here daily.. yes every single day.
I understand why Martin made this business decision. First, he needed more manufacturing capacity for making parts and a larger infrastructure to handle other aspects. He got too many calls from people that just wanted to bullpoop to pick his brains (guilty) which took him away from running the shop. He was very generous and patient putting up with us. RAW rifles are till a premier product, but it seems that many now want space rifles with all kinds of whiz-bangs thinking that they can shoot better. WRONG! Any rifle will shoot well in capable hands. Now the big fad is shooting slugs at extended ranges. There are darm few of us that have long range facilities or the need to do this, but the lure is there. Next year, some other company will come out with an improved product supplanting what's popular today. Every dog has it's day.
to rapid air..
I have been a rapid fan for over 20years, the only gun I would swap my rapids for are RAWs only because I prefer the side cocking lever, everything else apart from the scope rails and stocks are for almost identical.
However, I did buy a new gun recently, not because I thought it would be more accurate that the guns I already have (I can’t see how it actually could be) but because I wanted to see what all the fuss was about. In many ways, it has exceeded my expectations but it has also confirmed my doubts. The things I really like (and so do many other by the about of forum space it occupies) are the ease of adjustment, some of those, like the valve control knob would be an easy modification to do to the RAW, the externally adjustable reg would not be so easy but a back fillable reg inside the neck of the buddy bottle would free up plenum volume for those who are chasing power while also doing away with the v fill system allowing for an even larger valve cap plenum to be fitted. (This has already been done by a guy in his shed)
There are a few issues that need to be resolved on the RAW to make it worthy of it price, fitting an unfinished spring on poorly fitting spring guide or the valve chamber and hammer channel not running concentric with each other, simply isn’t good enough. The new valve cap is a step forward but the long unstable valve return spring is truly horrible. Another part that has recently been changed is the one piece hammer pip assembly, why on earth was that done? It removes one on the most important tuning aids on the RAW/ rapid and that is the pip length. Getting a low powered gun to run consistently with a short hammer pip and week spring is a nightmare, it has a lock time measured in historic periods rather than milliseconds. Likewise, get power from a hammer with a long pip requires the spring from the rear axle of a 1960’s mustang. Whoever designed those parts clearly has no understanding of how the gun works.
This might seem as though I am nit picking or a hate, I really am not, what I am is frustrated at what I consider the best airgun available is being let down by small details that make a big and detrimental difference. I am sorry but IMO, what come out of the factory does not close to the guns true potential.
Bb
BB do you have any contacts for folks who were doing tactical setups on thier rapids? I would be interest in purchasing something if it is done right. Also is the Rapid owners club site down?
Thanks - Brian
Yes the R7OC is down, Phil is trying to get it going but a lot of the technical stuff is missing, I think patience is needed.
as for the tactical stuff, I don’t know of anyone doing it on a commercial basis, they tend to be done by enthusiasts in there own workshops.
Ernie Swift used to be one of the “go to” guy for tactical stuff but had taken a sabbatical for a few years but I believe he has recently got back into it.
one of the nicest tactical rapids is Stuart’s aka CAverminator “ überrapid, I will try and find a photo
Bb
BB do you have any contacts for folks who were doing tactical setups on thier rapids? I would be interest in purchasing something if it is done right. Also is the Rapid owners club site down?
Thanks - Brian
Yes the R7OC is down, Phil is trying to get it going but a lot of the technical stuff is missing, I think patience is needed.
as for the tactical stuff, I don’t know of anyone doing it on a commercial basis, they tend to be done by enthusiasts in there own workshops.
Ernie Swift used to be one of the “go to” guy for tactical stuff but had taken a sabbatical for a few years but I believe he has recently got back into it.
one of the nicest tactical rapids is Stuart’s aka CAverminator “ überrapid, I will try and find a photo
Bb
to rapid air..
I have been a rapid fan for over 20years, the only gun I would swap my rapids for are RAWs only because I prefer the side cocking lever, everything else apart from the scope rails and stocks are for almost identical.
However, I did buy a new gun recently, not because I thought it would be more accurate that the guns I already have (I can’t see how it actually could be) but because I wanted to see what all the fuss was about. In many ways, it has exceeded my expectations but it has also confirmed my doubts. The things I really like (and so do many other by the about of forum space it occupies) are the ease of adjustment, some of those, like the valve control knob would be an easy modification to do to the RAW, the externally adjustable reg would not be so easy but a back fillable reg inside the neck of the buddy bottle would free up plenum volume for those who are chasing power while also doing away with the v fill system allowing for an even larger valve cap plenum to be fitted. (This has already been done by a guy in his shed)
There are a few issues that need to be resolved on the RAW to make it worthy of it price, fitting an unfinished spring on poorly fitting spring guide or the valve chamber and hammer channel not running concentric with each other, simply isn’t good enough. The new valve cap is a step forward but the long unstable valve return spring is truly horrible. Another part that has recently been changed is the one piece hammer pip assembly, why on earth was that done? It removes one on the most important tuning aids on the RAW/ rapid and that is the pip length. Getting a low powered gun to run consistently with a short hammer pip and week spring is a nightmare, it has a lock time measured in historic periods rather than milliseconds. Likewise, get power from a hammer with a long pip requires the spring from the rear axle of a 1960’s mustang. Whoever designed those parts clearly has no understanding of how the gun works.
This might seem as though I am nit picking or a hate, I really am not, what I am is frustrated at what I consider the best airgun available is being let down by small details that make a big and detrimental difference. I am sorry but IMO, what come out of the factory does not close to the guns true potential.
Bb
Agreed 100%
Regards
Umair Bhaur
Yes, RAW should get kudos for their innovations, absolutely.
I believe bucketboy is addressing the recent concerns about potential changes in the quality of the internals of the standard, production-line RAW's.
This issue is something that -I- am following with extreme interest, as I shop for a high end rifle. In fact, the RAW is no longer my leading candidate, for this reason. Needless to say, I am betting many other folks are just as curious to see where this discussion goes. I for one am appreciative of the fact it's being talked about here, and hope the fans and the company all gain something positive from it. Thanks to all !