I am in the market for a new gun and I was going back and forth between a 30 caliber daystate red wolf or a 30 caliber rapid air weapons hm 1000x LRT. If you had your choice between these guns which one would you go for?
Raw HM 1000x LRT or daystate redwolf
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A matter of personal taste. Both are fine rifles. I had a RAW and it was a great shooter. A bit on the heavy side though. I now have an FX Impact which I like quite well. Whichever gun you choose, I'm sure you will be happy. They are all fine rifles with their own characteristics.
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I’m not sure of your intentions with your new gun? But if it’s your do all rifle, bench, competition, hunting etc. the Raw!, if you Want a piece of art that shoots like a dream and is very accurate the Redwolf! There very different in execution but end result is both very accurate and fun to shoot! I have both and love them for this reason, the RAW’s motto “it takes a lick’en and keeps on tick’en” if the Raw doesn’t have some battle scar’s you ain’t shown it any love’n! The Redwolf is kinda hard to explain? But to me it’s the most satisfying gun I’ve ever shot! This may not help? but my input to your question.
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I have both as well. It’s a Porsche/ high end truck debate My red wolf is a 22 the RAW is a 30. I like them both. Another one to consider is an FX boss. Might be right between them. BUT I agree with what the others have said. I also have an impact in 25 . I hunt more with the impact because it’s handed then the RAW. But I prefer the rifle over the bull pup. I can’t tell you which I would pick. Try to pick up a good used gun and save yourself some money
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Well right now I have a 30 caliber Wildcat that I use for my hunter. I just wanted one high-end gun, that was accurate and would last forever! I've owned a crown and I loved the gun but it just seemed a little too dainty for me. I felt like if I hit it against anything it was going to shatter like a piece of glass. I know that's not the case but it just felt like I said dainty. So I narrowed it down to what I think are the two best looking guns which would be the Raw and the red wolf. As far as hunting I have my 30 caliber Wildcat and I wouldn't trade that for anything.
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I have both, but in standard power .22 rifles. Both are excellent rifles, but I'm kind of deciding I'm more of a mechanical guy than electronic. I just understand them, and the RAW is very easy to service, a very robust design. I don't consider either of them especially well suited for field use, at least for me. I'm in the minority on this one I'm sure, but I'm not a big fan of the electronic trigger. It can be as light as you want, but I never found a two-stage operation that felt right to me, so I just adjusted out the first stage to make a single stage release. It's not really a sear operated trigger, but rather a switch, so, regardless of how light you set it, it cannot have that clean,crisp feel of a really good mechanical match grade trigger. But, it works great, and lock time is essentially instant.
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I have the RAW in .25 and the Red Wolf HP in .22. As stated by others, they are two totally different animals in every way. Both of mine were procured through and tuned by Ken Hicks. Both are extremely accurate - but the Red Wolf is consistently the most accurate of the two. While I was concerned about the electronics in the Red Wolf prior to purchase, they have been absolutely no issue.
I wouldn't want to give up either, but if I could only have one, it would be the Red Wolf.
I wouldn't want to give up either, but if I could only have one, it would be the Red Wolf.
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Get the Red Wolf unless you are just going to bench rest...forget anything else as you are on the right track.
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"I just wanted one high-end gun, that was accurate and would last forever!" That would describe the RAW perfectly.
Chas
Chas
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I believe any accuracy advantage would depend on normal barrel variations. That said, the Red Wolf is probably easier for most people to shoot small groups, just because good trigger technique is not quite as critical. The air release is virtually instant, and you don't gave a hammer banging around. On a long term average, my guess is that I shoot just a bit better with the RAW. That may be the result of a pro mechanical gun prejudice on my part. I might take more time with it and try a little harder, just so I can say, "see, I told you so." But I take nothing from the Red Wolf, it is a remarkable rifle. I had it in the yard recently to take out a marauding squirrel. As is often the case, I was ready twice to squeeze off a shot, and the squirrel moved. Finally, a third opportunity arose, and when I tried to get the shot off, the rifle had timed out and gone in sleep mode! By the time I realized what had happened, and moved the safety on and off, he was gone again. That's one reason it would never be a hunting rifle for me. Sometimes, we outsmart ourselves, and I'd give the designer of that feature the "too smart" award.
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I do not have a Red Wolf but do have an HM1000x in .30 and it is amazing, so amazing that two of my friends purchased the same gun after shooting mine. I would say either are probably outstanding! Good luck
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Yup the WTF??? MOMENT the power off timed out syndrome...wish they added a manual ON switch! A STAY ON switch! YO!
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