Hi. I would like to buy Hatsan Mod 135 QE Vortex but I am torn between .22 and .25. My question is: should I buy .22 with heavy pellets or should I go for .25 and use standard weight pellets? I know that .22 has long distance and .25 has more power of impact. What's the difference as to distance and impact between the two? Thanks in advance
Questions about 22 and 25 calibers
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What are you using it for? Target at 100 yards? critters close in? that makes all the difference in the world.
Personally, if I was shooting under 50 or 75 yards, the .22 has plenty of accuracy and punch. past that, the .25 might be needed. all depends on your use.
I have a Marauder in .22 and an Impact in .25. Love both for different purposes.
One other thing to consider. .25 are about 330 per tin for $18 or $19 where .22 are 500 per tin. If expense figures into the equation, .22 is a sure winner at about 1/3 less cost per pellet. .22 also consumes less air per shot, so if pumping that might make a difference.
So, what's the gun used for?
Personally, if I was shooting under 50 or 75 yards, the .22 has plenty of accuracy and punch. past that, the .25 might be needed. all depends on your use.
I have a Marauder in .22 and an Impact in .25. Love both for different purposes.
One other thing to consider. .25 are about 330 per tin for $18 or $19 where .22 are 500 per tin. If expense figures into the equation, .22 is a sure winner at about 1/3 less cost per pellet. .22 also consumes less air per shot, so if pumping that might make a difference.
So, what's the gun used for?
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Thanks for your reply. I want to shoot at 100 yards without losing much power to wind. Hatsan mod 135 vortex qe is not pcp so consuming gas is not an issue as long as there is atmosphere on earth I reckon. Pellet cost doesn't bother me either
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Either caliber will work at 100 yards, as proven by this years Extreme Benchrest Winner, using a .22.
PA has the Hatsan Mod 135 .22 for $299 and the .25 for $249, strange, as .25's are usually more.
I guess the best thing to do is flip a coin. I really don't know which is better for you either. Preplexed . . . . .
PA has the Hatsan Mod 135 .22 for $299 and the .25 for $249, strange, as .25's are usually more.
I guess the best thing to do is flip a coin. I really don't know which is better for you either. Preplexed . . . . .
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If shooting out to 100yds with a Springer is your goal, then definitely a .22. The trajectory will be much better than that of a .25 at those lower power levels.
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DairyBoy brings up a good point. The gun is rated at up to 1000 fps in .22, so realistic speeds could be 900fps, but only rated about 750 for .25. While faster isn't always better, the slow speed of the .25 might cause instability at 100 yards. Interesting point.
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I don't know … just had Charlie Frear do a powertune, lap the barrel, adjust the trigger to 12 oz, widen the lead and perfect the crown on a Cricket, she is doing between 900-910 fps with the Mk ll JSB 34 grainers. Haven't shot it at a hundred yards yet but the drop from 40 to 60 yards is only one mil dot … lights out accurate! Got a Sumo on it and it HAS to be the quietest gun I have EVER fired … Ohhhhhh and did I say accurate … can't wipe the smile off my face!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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With a Hatsan, I would go with the .22. I picked up a Hatsan Mod95 in .25. After testing all 14 of the selection in a .25 pellet sampler from Straight Shooters, and finding only 1 pellet that came close to the accuracy I demand, I couldn't recommend a .25 from Hatsan. Perhaps others' have had a different experience. The 750 fps number is on the money in .25
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IMHO it is possible to do it, but to do it well is a skill most of us will never have no matter how much we practice. A little like every high school football player is not going to the NFL no matter how much work they put in....they just may not have the skill set to achieve that level.
Again IMHO there is zero difference in a pellet leaving a barrel at 900fps....that pellet does not care what kind of power system is behind it....and if someone thinks that the guns that are powered by some form of spring are using lower quality barrels than their PCP brothers....well, not going to buy it. Price point to price point I think the quality is going to be right there.
PCP is so popular for one reason....it is easy....on so many different levels. Spring guns are not easy to shoot, and a "magnum" spring gun is the single most difficult thing to shoot well that you will ever put to your shoulder. So much going on with that spring it is a real skill that if someone can shoot well is something to really be proud of. shooting a pcp at 100 yards, eh anyone can do that with a little practice.
I am not sure on why you are looking at hatsan, but if you are lookin for 100 yards with a spring gun I would look into guns other folk have used to do that. I know I can do about 70 with my rws 48 and really I am only good for about 5 shots then the groups really go south fast. I can't shoot them well....but I think a person with skill could shoot that gun at 100 yards and get good groups....I just can't.
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All depends on what size target you are trying to hit. A grape? doubtful. Or a watermelon? Probably a good percentage of the time.
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Either .22 / .25 I would look at another than the Hatsan's Vortex too many probs with pistons and quality control is not up for standards.For the same $ amount you can purchase a nice Benjamin -- Good luck in your buying decision !!!
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Here’s a question you can think about.Have you ever shot a powder burner at a two inch circle at a hundred yards and how many times did you hit it.Aspringer will be a lot hard for sure
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I'm with Cherokee and Yote. If you were looking for something that was more accurate than what you were currently using, then yeah, feasible.
If you are asking what can hit accurately at that distance, then there is no reasonable answer.
JMHO.
If you are asking what can hit accurately at that distance, then there is no reasonable answer.
JMHO.
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I just started attempting some 100 yards shots with my Diana 34 .22 caliber with JSB Exact Jumbo's 15.89gr Just plinking at glass jars set up on a log in the woods. I routinely blast a 2" diameter by 3" tall jar at 50 yards. Hit two in a row yesterday at 100 yards but can't do that size consistently. Started with larger bottles and took a while to figure out the holdover. Gun is zeroed at 30 and I need a 5 1/2 mil holdover for 100 yards. Definitely doable for plinking and paper targets but I wouldn't go for a squirrel at that range. 50 or less for me taking squirrels. BTW, I'm using a single shooting stick while standing for all my shooting.
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