N/A QD Fox magazines: User opinions

Thanks all

Poorly functioning mags are frustrating....don't want that.

I have a few Maples for my 250z which work perfectly but they don't make AGT magazines unfortunately. But Orion is on my radar now.
Reach out to Jay with Maple Custom Mags, he will tell you the dimensions he needs and can make some mags for you.

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How do you know it is Orion's design? Lots of files on Yeggi and various other sites for magazines. Is it possible the QD_FOX was first?
Because I gave my rifle and magazines for Orion to design the 3D versions back in March. Also the face plate geometric design with the shine is the same as what ORION does to all of his mags.



 
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Because I gave my rifle and magazines for Orion to design the 3D versions back in March. Also the face plate geometric design with the shine is the same as what ORION does to all of his mags.



My point was that the base designs for magazines are all over the 3d web sites. Once you have the base design for the style self indexing magazine then any *new* magazine is a variation on a theme. Adjusting the form factor is not that difficult. Especially with 3d scanners. The basic wheel of caliber and count and spring with a specific frame.

Original design in the 3d printing world is the exception.

AGT Magazine
 
My point was that the base designs for magazines are all over the 3d web sites. Once you have the base design for the style self indexing magazine then any *new* magazine is a variation on a theme. Adjusting the form factor is not that difficult. Especially with 3d scanners. The basic wheel of caliber and count and spring with a specific frame.

Original design in the 3d printing world is the exception.

AGT Magazine

It’s not really a "base" design, just like not all cars with four wheels are the same. If you compare his AGT magazine to mine, you’ll see QD is copying my design. Honestly, that's not cool—there’s a real opportunity for innovation in this space instead of imitation. But I digress...
 
It’s not really a "base" design, just like not all cars with four wheels are the same. If you compare his AGT magazine to mine, you’ll see QD is copying my design. Honestly, that's not cool—there’s a real opportunity for innovation in this space instead of imitation. But I digress...
Thanks, yeah I wasnt 100% sure about that. My experience with 3D printing has been one of a kind custom application. More a mask to not print something.

The better 3d scanners do make a lot of the initial design easier so I can see how copying has simplified.
 
Here's my take over many guns
Carm...what can I say, they work every time without fail

Maple...just as good as Carm

Orion....work great, never a problem, although my Crown 177 makes a funny snap noise, but works great.

QD Fox....pretty good but my Dreamline doesn't prefer them. My Crown loves them. I'm not sure but I suspect the custom barrel on my DL is not all the way seated and these mags do not have the oring to secure them.

When I need mags I usually buy Maple or Orion now.
 
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I'm considering QD Fox as a source of after market magazines for my AGT U2

How do these stack up against the factory product? The price diffence isn't significant enough that it would trump buying them over the AGT mags (which are very solid and reliable) ....unless they are awesome.
I got some from him for the Notos. Good quality and way more reliable than OEM.
 
My point was that the base designs for magazines are all over the 3d web sites. Once you have the base design for the style self indexing magazine then any *new* magazine is a variation on a theme. Adjusting the form factor is not that difficult. Especially with 3d scanners. The basic wheel of caliber and count and spring with a specific frame.

Original design in the 3d printing world is the exception.

AGT Magazine
I get what you're saying, there could have a base design out there, but don't just flat out copy it. For the one you sent me, sure it may have a square shape like the other mags but you can easily tell it's their own take on the magazine without even clicking on the link.
 
I get what you're saying, there could have a base design out there, but don't just flat out copy it. For the one you sent me, sure it may have a square shape like the other mags but you can easily tell it's their own take on the magazine without even clicking on the link.
Best way to protect an original design is to register a copyright. Not as expensive or effective as a patent but you have recourse if your design is copied. Unlikely you can get compensation, like with patents, but a simple cease and desist may be effective. But the cost of the C&D can be problematic for low volume/ low margin products.

The example was literally the first AGT I found. Just to point out that 3d designs are available.
 
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Best way to protect an original design is to register a copyright. Not as expensive or effective as a patent but you have recourse if your design is copied. Unlikely you can get compensation, like with patents, but a simple cease and desist may be effective. But the cost of the C&D can be problematic for low volume/ low margin products.

The example was literally the first AGT I found. Just to point out that 3d designs are available.
Gotcha on the example.

That I understand, and I agree that there should be some kind of protection in place for specific situations.
 
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I wasn't going to address the "similar" design of Fox mags to Orion. I think it is no coincidence, and I belive Orion has done a ton of work providing original designs. You shouldn't need to spend a lot of time and money protecting your own work. As airgun enthusiasts we should respect each other's work.
 
I wasn't going to address the "similar" design of Fox mags to Orion. I think it is no coincidence, and I belive Orion has done a ton of work providing original designs. You shouldn't need to spend a lot of time and money protecting your own work. As airgun enthusiasts we should respect each other's work.
And since this is new, to me, not possible to have known. Obviously new to many others. So unless someone points out the issue how would we know? Do you compare every product to the competition? Of course not, you buy what you need.

It is like the Huben Power knock-off regulators on AliExpress. I bought 2 before I discovered the Huben web site. I have been buying direct since. But no one on any of the various boards directly addressed the knockoffs that I found until recently.