Pumpers the Toyota Corolla of air guns

[3Crows]

The PCP God's must look upon you kindlier than me my friend.

I have two high-end guns that deadlined in less than 6 months of purchase. The Marauder (not high-end) only needs a new breech seal. Are they repairable as everyone likes to bring up? Of course, but I really don't think that I should have to warranty or personally repair what is basically a premium item that couldve been just as fulfilled at a fraction of the cost.

Meanwhile the beater 1377 from 1978 that I just got off of fleabay works flawlessly. & yes, it offers less performance than the brand new 1701 that instantly needed a new manometer, but at ~ $100 I only need to adjust my expectations to make it work out. No headaches or heartaches if if shtz the bed either.



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We wll just have to agree to disagree. The 397/392/Streaks have a higher parts count than a M-Rod and just about as many seals. Not sure what you mean by premium, confusing. I have four M-Rods, two Urbans and a new 3622 and none of them have been leak prone anymore than the pump rifles of which I now have one that si leaking and will not pump up.

Pump rifles remind me of my Kubota tractor, ev erytime I get on it I have to get the grease gun out and more grease gets on me than in the zerks. I do not need to pump my PCP every time I shoot it. Nor do I need to lube it with Secret Sauce. The downside to PCPs is a reliable HP source. The downside of pumpers is the pumping. And again, accuracy and power of a PCP is on a different level from a brass barreled pumper.

I am not anti-pumper. I have been shooting my 392 Steroid a lot recently. But for me it is a hunting weapon, carbiner size, under 6.5 pounds, easy to manuver. But to sit at my bench and shot sand pump and shoot and pump, nah. I do occasionally pump my 3622 with the bicycle pump apparatus it came with. Works okay. It can get from 1000 psi to 2000 maximum psi in a few minutes and get 24 shots at 16 fpe. I need to count the pump cycles. It is probably break even with the 392 rifles. Just I get a 24 shot rest in between. And with scope it weighs right about 5.5 pounds. And a very low parts and seals count. Hardly no moving parts and little to oil.

 

[Sleestak]

We wll just have to agree to disagree. The 397/392/Streaks have a higher parts count than a M-Rod and just about as many seals. Not sure what you mean by premium, confusing. I have four M-Rods, two Urbans and a new 3622 and none of them have been leak prone anymore than the pump rifles of which I now have one that si leaking and will not pump up.

Pump rifles remind me of my Kubota tractor, ev erytime I get on it I have to get the grease gun out and more grease gets on me than in the zerks. I do not need to pump my PCP every time I shoot it. Nor do I need to lube it with Secret Sauce. The downside to PCPs is a reliable HP source. The downside of pumpers is the pumping. And again, accuracy and power of a PCP is on a different level from a brass barreled pumper.

I am not anti-pumper. I have been shooting my 392 Steroid a lot recently. But for me it is a hunting weapon, carbiner size, under 6.5 pounds, easy to manuver. But to sit at my bench and shot sand pump and shoot and pump, nah. I do occasionally pump my 3622 with the bicycle pump apparatus it came with. Works okay. It can get from 1000 psi to 2000 maximum psi in a few minutes and get 24 shots at 16 fpe. I need to count the pump cycles. It is probably break even with the 392 rifles. Just I get a 24 shot rest in between. And with scope it weighs right about 5.5 pounds. And a very low parts and seals count. Hardly no moving parts and little to oil.

It's an observstion not an argument & not sure why people think it's anti-PCP

If I were to not be stupid w my money I'd stay entirely out of air guns

 

[Sleestak]

Growing up in 1950s Baltimore we all had Daisy Model 25s except the kid whose family owned the hardware store and funeral home.
He had a Benji.
I always wanted one.
I passed through Kearny, Nebraska in 2003-4 and stopped in at Cabelas.
They had three pumpers that looked exactly alike.
397, 392 and C9a
You know which one I bought.
I rebuilt it last year replacing the cup and internals of the valve.
At 80, pumping is a bit of a chore, but it is fun.

My crabby grandpa on my dad's side had a minty Sheridan Blue Streak that hung unused on their paneled basement wall for my entire life. It was probably purchased in the late 50's and like the pool table, strictly off limits to me and my kin.

I've had other air guns, but finally purchasing one of those for myself was what really sent me down the rabbit hole to where I am today