I had ordered some pellets and targets from Midway sports, since I was having problems completing transactions on PA website. So today the box comes. 11Lbs. The box was 8 x 16 x 22 inches, stuffed with air bags, which did nothing to keep the tins of pellets from flying all over inside of the box. One lid shoes signs of damage, the rest look fine. The best place to order from I have found is PA, and I will never order them again from Midway. The targets were 14 x 18, so they did need a box they would fit in, but the pellets could have at least been taped down to the bottom, or placed in a smaller box, Lesson learned.