PCP for shooting steel

[fx guy]

Hello,
I am new to airguns but have a background in powder-burners. I currently have an aea 25 hp varmint and FX impact M3 .22 and am having a riot shooting at 200yards and greater for near no cost. I am looking to delve into air pistols, my local club has a very nice steel handgun range, I am looking for something that has the ability to knock over the plates if possible. I appreciate any help!

 

[maxtrouble]

Most pellet pistols are made for accuracy, not power. Think 10 meter target shooting. I have a HW44 at 12 fpe that gets 20 shots per fill and that is pretty impressive. Hatsan and Reximex came out with new pistols this year, might check them out.

The only true steel ringer I can think of is the legend, Quakenbush. I still want one.

Quackenbush Air Guns

 

[delooper]

Those Quackenbush guns look really interesting.

Like maxtrouble, I can't think of any seriously high-powered air pistols.

From an engineering perspective, it would be difficult to fit all that air, barrel and handgrip in a small package. The Quackenbush does it with a very long "rifle without a stock" approach.

The main engineering problem you have is that PCPs have far less air pressure to work with to power the projectile, compared with a powderburner. Traditionally you make the barrel longer, to give the gun more time to accellerate the projectile. The shorter your barrel, the more air you're wasting and there's a law of diminishing returns in terms of barrel length and projectile speed.

I suppose if I had to build a high-speed pistol, I'd maybe try to go for something in a bullpup format, i.e. have the barrel extend behind the grip almost as much as it extends in front of the grip. Or you could go with a fairly traditional format, but have the air tethered to the gun in a backpack. That way you could waste a tonne of air to get velocity up, and not be so concerned with running out immediately.

 

[MikeVV]

There's probably a few that have the power and accuracy.

But these two PCP guns are capable, though, unfortunately hard to get.

The Ataman AP16 (.22) has plenty of power and is adjustable, but slightly so. The trigger is also adjustable. Magazine fed.
Seems that they may not be currently manufactured, but I've seen a couple of locations where you can still buy new. Also, have seen used.

And the Kalibrgun Ocelot (.22).
You'll have to find this one used as I did. Also adjustable, trigger and power. Single shot.

Mike

 

[steve-l]

There are no high power PCP pistols out of the box that I am aware of, but there have been some very impressive customs being made. Look up on youtube Huben K1 .25 pistol. The developer claims very impressive numbers.

I have an inexpensive PP700SA single shot regulated pistol in .22 that gets 40 shots per charge at 600 fps using JSB 15 gr pellets. Very accurate and efficient.

 

[c_m_shooter]

You won't find many repeaters that are high enough power for action shooting like that. You can make a scaled down range and use any of the CO2 BB replicas with H and N smart shot.

 

[bthurman]

Call Veradium Air they are setting the pp700sa in 22 to 800fps with 15g slugs. They also have a 25 cal version.

 

[zhuber77]

I mean my DAQ .58 cal pistol is definitely a steel ringer... Not that I would call it a pistol at this point because frankly you just cant hold it comfortably like a pistol. I have it in a crosman carbine stock, just makes more sense. Like mentioned above, it just takes to much barrel to produce the pressure needed to sling a projectile that size.

 

[fx guy]

There are no high power PCP pistols out of the box that I am aware of, but there have been some very impressive customs being made. Look up on youtube Huben K1 .25 pistol. The developer claims very impressive numbers.

I have an inexpensive PP700SA single shot regulated pistol in .22 that gets 40 shots per charge at 600 fps using JSB 15 gr pellets. Very accurate and efficient.

That huben pistol looks fantastic, really beautiful custom project. Was hoping I would see some factory made as they would sell like hotcakes!

 

[fafo13]

TalonP

 

[Healthservices]

How about the AEA Max SS? Are they considered hand guns? Can the folding stock be removed? I think the biggest caliber is .50 but I don't think you need a 50 to knock down steel. How big is the steel?


Allen

 

[hdryden]

Hello,
I am new to airguns but have a background in powder-burners. I currently have an aea 25 hp varmint and FX impact M3 .22 and am having a riot shooting at 200yards and greater for near no cost. I am looking to delve into air pistols, my local club has a very nice steel handgun range, I am looking for something that has the ability to knock over the plates if possible. I appreciate any help!

Curious, how accurate is the M3 at 100+?

 

[Airgun-hobbyist]

There's going to be a new player in the pcp pistol game, the Evanix Viper in .25 caliber. This is a magazine fed repeater that should have enough down range power and pellet momentum to knock down those steel silhouettes.

evanix viper - Google Search

 

[hdryden]

There's going to be a new player in the pcp pistol game, the Evanix Viper in .25 caliber. This is a magazine fed repeater that should have enough down range power and pellet momentum to knock down those steel silhouettes.

evanix viper - Google Search

Any chance you have a link to a review on that Evanix? I’m curious how many good shots you could get per fill.

 

[Airgun-hobbyist]

Any chance you have a link to a review on that Evanix? I’m curious how many good shots you could get per fill.

This is the link. There's also an Evanix page somewhere with a decent amount of development videos.

evanix viper - Google Search

 

[qball]

I have a great time shooting steel with my AEA SS+ in 25 cal at my local 22 steel range. Pretty heavy steel plates at 25 and 50 yards and the SS+ knocks them over pretty well with 29 grain NSA slugs.

BUT it’s not really a pistol unless you have popeye forearms.

 

[fx guy]

Curious, how accurate is the M3 at 100+?

Very accurate. 4" plate near every shot at 200 but you have to keep an eye on wind. My best group was moa 5 shot but i have only done that once. I need to work on my tune. I also think the barrel is fouling quickly, thinking about lapping it. Javelin slugs.