Other PCP for PRS22

Hey all,
New here and new to the world of PCP rifles. ( I have a notos for small yard pests) I'm a rimfire PRS shooter, my last match had two air rifles on my squad. I have to say I'm intrigued to say the least!

I see most people lean to FX for this style of shooting. I've been looking at the Drs mostly, the panthera is the top of what I would like to spend. I have also seen the AGT Uragan as a slug shooter. I'm looking for 22 cal. Any and all suggestions are welcome!
Thanks!
 
I havent shot a match yet, but i set up my fx impact m3 700mm 22 to basically mimic the old school 22long with better bc. 34 grain slugs about 1000 fps depending on weather. 400 yards is the longest shot I've taken and it only hit a paper plate size target, no bullseye performance from me.

I used to shoot rimfire bullseye competitively but we didn't do anything past 100 yards. I have half a mind to show up with the impact and get them to re write the rules because of me. If scopes are allowed that's where I gray area them, I use a ballistics solving range finding optic which will anger some fuddy duddys.

The one thing I think we can do with air rifles is take advantage of our consistency and bc vs the rimfire guys. I might not recommend a 700mm barrel due to form factor and feel(oal rules) , unless you are chasing max power. It should hang with the anschutz crowd and rws match ammo very effectively if you set it up right.
 
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I haven't bought a Panthera because I don't like the liner system but as long as you don't bump the shroud you should be okay. It's probably the best choice, or the DRS, mostly because these are designed around these games and you can get the fast twist liners for the 40 graniers. I HATE POI shifts/losing my zero and I know the first thing I'd end up doing is banging that shroud against something. Already went through that with the Impact/no fun at all.

The Karma Red Panda could be a top choice too. It has a real barrel and IMHO a much more robust barrel attachment system.

Or stay with 22rf! Man that new Anschutz 1727F with the thumb paddle in the new Anschutz chassis system is "THE ULTIMATE". Seriously tempted to start selling stuff to get into one!!!
 
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I haven't bought a Panthera because I don't like the liner system but as long as you don't bump the shroud you should be okay. It's probably the best choice, or the DRS, mostly because these are designed around these games and you can get the fast twist liners for the 40 graniers. I HATE POI shifts/losing my zero and I know the first thing I'd end up doing is banging that shroud against something. Already went through that with the Impact/no fun at all.

The Karma Red Panda could be a top choice too. It has a real barrel and IMHO a much more robust barrel attachment system.

Or stay with 22rf! Man that new Anschutz 1727F with the thumb paddle in the new Anschutz chassis system is "THE ULTIMATE". Seriously tempted to start selling stuff to get into one!!!
The karma is a nice aea, theyre more accurate /powerful than they should be but..... aea(you'll notice some signature aea parts and design on them) I don't think the liner is as sensitive in the over barrel plenum fx stuff as it is in the old designs like the impact, which has now been addressed a little too. I think the prs oriented guns use that system for the very reason you list.

The 40 grain slugs and 800mm barrels are not seen too often these days with better bc slightly lighter/shorter stuff too. Fx is the king of marketing wank and rolling updates. The gun id really go for was the side lever anschutz till I saw the pricing🤣 I almost died.
 
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First off welcome to the world of PCP's!
Depending on your skill set, tools available and the level you enjoy tuning and modifying things tends to guide which options might work best for you.

Short answer is currently FX has the most tested LR smallbore slug gun system on the market, it has its weaknesses and there's a bunch of good and bad about the brand but its really the main option currently for a bunch of reasons.

My suggestion is take your pick between the Panthera 600mm and DRS 700mm. in .22 or .25(I believe under the new PRS rules you can tune a .25 with Altaros to 880fps and still qualify under the new FPE based rules) and the 600mm version panthera because I assume with the larger tank and plenum it will have more than enough air to compensate for the shorter barrel while still keeping power and I highly recommend running a suppressor like the STO Falix which with the 700mm gets a bit long. But for the DRS I like the margin the 700mm barrel/tube gives for tuning and it saved me some $$ since it comes with the SHP plenum.

Get some Altaros slugs and set it up for 880-910fps should get you about MOA +- groups at 100yds depending on the rifle and give you an excellent BC. A lot of people also like a bunch of other slugs on the market and push them 1,000fps plus, works for them. Myself, I knew I was gonna be tight on air/shot count with the DRS, and the biggest or should I say most difficult factor for most in PRS is the wind, so I chose to go with the highest BC option and the Altaros are a very proven performer in the FX slug liner, combine that with only needing to push them to 880-900fps and I’m able to get 24 shots per fill, so in the event I forget to top of after a stage I won’t bomb a stage from dropping off the reg and allowing me to stay safely in my reg if I dryfire a few to reset the reg, clear the chamber for a ceasefire etc. and saved me doing a bunch of tuning and testing with the 100 other type and sizes of slugs on the market of late.

If I was doing it all over again I might go with a 600mm Panthera since this season I’m switching my centerfire rig to a MDT chassis and the Panthera would allow my to emulate that easier and I’d imagine I could get enough shots per fill to do 3 lanes between fills and I would be very similar length to my centerfire rig while running a falx or I could even switch up to a sarrissa for an even quieter rig and in my opinion quieter is always more enjoyable ;)

But for value new, the DRS is hard to beat when you factor in replacing the rails on the Panthera to make it stiff and get the right balance and adding weights etc. but I say that because I was able to easily inlet a stock for the DRS to make it competition ready. with the value of Panthera’s used having tanked there are a lot of great deals coming up for them used and personally I think they looks pretty sharp as well.

RAW, is another option, but the bottle design is a bit different on the barricades vs the nearly identical profile to you rimfire/centerfire you can achieve with a DRS/Panthera. And if you club does many porthole type barricades you may find some impossible do to rifle+scope height.
This is getting very long so I'll end it there but if you have questions ask away, there are several shooters here on AGN that compete in Rimfire PRS & NRL22 comps with PCP's

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I haven't bought a Panthera because I don't like the liner system but as long as you don't bump the shroud you should be okay. It's probably the best choice, or the DRS, mostly because these are designed around these games and you can get the fast twist liners for the 40 graniers. I HATE POI shifts/losing my zero and I know the first thing I'd end up doing is banging that shroud against something. Already went through that with the Impact/no fun at all.

The Karma Red Panda could be a top choice too. It has a real barrel and IMHO a much more robust barrel attachment system.

Or stay with 22rf! Man that new Anschutz 1727F with the thumb paddle in the new Anschutz chassis system is "THE ULTIMATE". Seriously tempted to start selling stuff to get into one!!!
Yeah I think that's what's keeping me on the fence, poi shift mid match would be problematic.
I have seen that Anschuts!! Big$$ I might just stick with rimfire a while longer until the next wave of improvements.
 
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First off welcome to the world of PCP's!
Depending on your skill set, tools available and the level you enjoy tuning and modifying things tends to guide which options might work best for you.

Short answer is currently FX has the most tested LR smallbore slug gun system on the market, it has its weaknesses and there's a bunch of good and bad about the brand but its really the main option currently for a bunch of reasons.

My suggestion is take your pick between the Panthera 600mm and DRS 700mm. in .22 or .25(I believe under the new PRS rules you can tune a .25 with Altaros to 880fps and still qualify under the new FPE based rules) and the 600mm version panthera because I assume with the larger tank and plenum it will have more than enough air to compensate for the shorter barrel while still keeping power and I highly recommend running a suppressor like the STO Falix which with the 700mm gets a bit long. But for the DRS I like the margin the 700mm barrel/tube gives for tuning and it saved me some $$ since it comes with the SHP plenum.

Get some Altaros slugs and set it up for 880-910fps should get you about MOA +- groups at 100yds depending on the rifle and give you an excellent BC. A lot of people also like a bunch of other slugs on the market and push them 1,000fps plus, works for them. Myself, I knew I was gonna be tight on air/shot count with the DRS, and the biggest or should I say most difficult factor for most in PRS is the wind, so I chose to go with the highest BC option and the Altaros are a very proven performer in the FX slug liner, combine that with only needing to push them to 880-900fps and I’m able to get 24 shots per fill, so in the event I forget to top of after a stage I won’t bomb a stage from dropping off the reg and allowing me to stay safely in my reg if I dryfire a few to reset the reg, clear the chamber for a ceasefire etc. and saved me doing a bunch of tuning and testing with the 100 other type and sizes of slugs on the market of late.

If I was doing it all over again I might go with a 600mm Panthera since this season I’m switching my centerfire rig to a MDT chassis and the Panthera would allow my to emulate that easier and I’d imagine I could get enough shots per fill to do 3 lanes between fills and I would be very similar length to my centerfire rig while running a falx or I could even switch up to a sarrissa for an even quieter rig and in my opinion quieter is always more enjoyable ;)

But for value new, the DRS is hard to beat when you factor in replacing the rails on the Panthera to make it stiff and get the right balance and adding weights etc. but I say that because I was able to easily inlet a stock for the DRS to make it competition ready. with the value of Panthera’s used having tanked there are a lot of great deals coming up for them used and personally I think they looks pretty sharp as well.

RAW, is another option, but the bottle design is a bit different on the barricades vs the nearly identical profile to you rimfire/centerfire you can achieve with a DRS/Panthera. And if you club does many porthole type barricades you may find some impossible do to rifle+scope height.
This is getting very long so I'll end it there but if you have questions ask away, there are several shooters here on AGN that compete in Rimfire PRS & NRL22 comps with PCP's

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Those are some nice rigs! I'm a mechanic by trade so leaving things alone is never going to happen! I could easily inlet a stock to play nice with barricades. I might wait another year to go air, as intriguing as it is. I'll see what happens with the red panda.
 
Yeah I think that's what's keeping me on the fence, poi shift mid match would be problematic.
I have seen that Anschuts!! Big$$ I might just stick with rimfire a while longer until the next wave of improvements.
I keep trying to get Mike of Thomas Airguns to make a repeater but he's too busy with a 1.5 year backlog, as is, and probably more notable is he has no interest in doing so, but if he did = oh boy!!!

I shot his latest iteration BR slug gun earlier this week and he's got the "slug thing" dialed in so well it's quite amazing. Even in hard winds I almost couldn't miss the 10 ring on a N50 target @50 and I ain't no BR shooter. He also found a way to improve the BC of his 38gr slugs and keep them shooting just as good. It's way more precise than my 1827F with 22rf match ammo.
 
I was also considering the AGT Uragan, cz barrel and tons of power, just not sure if a bullpup is for me
It might be okay with the chassis system if you can get it to balance well but it'll still be tall-ish for shooting through small ports, however these are pretty reliable.

I like my V3 a lot and it's been a great gun though I haven't used it in the afforementioned games. Makes a fantastic EFT/UFT rig though.
 
I keep trying to get Mike of Thomas Airguns to make a repeater but he's too busy with a 1.5 year backlog, as is, and probably more notable is he has no interest in doing so, but if he did = oh boy!!!

I shot his latest iteration BR slug gun earlier this week and he's got the "slug thing" dialed in so well it's quite amazing. Even in hard winds I almost couldn't miss the 10 ring on a N50 target @50 and I ain't no BR shooter. He also found a way to improve the BC of his 38gr slugs and keep them shooting just as good. It's way more precise than my 1827F with 22rf match ammo.
I've briefly seen the Thomas airguns name around, seems like quite the smith! These air rifles and their basically zero SD is hard to beat.
 
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It might be okay with the chassis system if you can get it to balance well but it'll still be tall-ish for shooting through small ports, however these are pretty reliable.

I like my V3 a lot and it's been a great gun though I haven't used it in the afforementioned games. Makes a fantastic EFT/UFT rig though.
I think at this point, I might pick up a dreamline to play with, get used to the basics before I really jump in. I do like those AGT Uragan rifles, I can see owning one possibly for long range bench shooting.
 
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I think at this point, I might pick up a dreamline to play with, get used to the basics before I really jump in. I do like those AGT Uragan rifles, I can see owning one possibly for long range bench shooting.
I cannot speak highly enough of the dreamline tactical compact I recently got. My personality is that of a perpetual tinkerer and I always want to refine what I have to it's max potential within reason (usually too far). The dreamline is bone stock and won't be touched... That good

I over built my impact m3 for what I realistically do and made an elr varmint gun with all the usual boltons and rolling updates. The dreamline is the perfect daily for me up to 110 yards thus far on pellets (25 cal). And I can cut the transfer port down to low just to plink with my buddies with no real tune change. They're far more capable than the SA youtubers would have you believe.

I was almost ready to buy the sub 1k dollar standard tube version in 177 but bought a benji disco on here instead to keep me busier longer tuning on it. The modularity of the dreamline is expensive to change, but you can do a lot with them, and they'll overshoot manufacturer specs by a little bit too.

Hope you find what youre looking for.
 
It's funny to hear you say that about the YouTubers, I agree that this platform should be more capable than they say. I have a line on a few used ones. Thank you for the advice!
Without being too inflammatory, the sa youtube have a financial stake im almost everything they're using or suggesting from projectiles, guns, optics to gun bolt ons and have access to prototype parts. It's an infomercial with highlight reel shots. Gerard is a world class shooter and knows how to tune, 70% of the magic is his talent imo 😁 I learned real fast not to be upset if I don't shoot like him.
 
Without being too inflammatory, the sa youtube have a financial stake im almost everything they're using or suggesting from projectiles, guns, optics to gun bolt ons and have access to prototype parts. It's an infomercial with highlight reel shots. Gerard is a world class shooter and knows how to tune, 70% of the magic is his talent imo 😁 I learned real fast not to be upset if I don't shoot like him.
There are a few rimfire tube channels that do the same thing. Every one of them pretty much say you need a voodoo or rimx to be competitive. Here I am at the top 10 in the rimfire PRS semi auto division, with a 10/22 platform. The skill tends to be more the issue than the equipment.