Paintball Bottle to fill my PCP?

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Before putting in vise or anything, grab a wooden or rubber mallet and give it a few good whacks on the fill nipple like you are trying to turn the valve with the hammer. Most of the current generation paintball tanks do not use threadlockers as the pressure alone will seat them and keep them from coming apart. None of the valves I have replaced in the last 10 years have required anything more than that.
 
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Empty the tank slow, the regulator gets real cold, real quick when you go fast. I'm not sure if the cold damages the existing regulator seals or not.

Once it's completely empty, the regulator will unscrew fairly easy. If you need some kind of help like a vise, be sure to wrap a thick towel around the regulator and do not put any pressure on the psi gauge and damage it.

Odds are if someone can hold the tank you can unscrew it with your bare hands

Same with putting the new regulator on the tank.

Only hand tighten the regulator to the tank. No need to use a wrench. The high psi and regulator o ring seals perfectly fine.

The adaptor I showed is what goes onto the male part of the regulator on the tank you have, it has a knob on top that when screwed down forces a pin to open the ball on the regulator which lets the air out.

If you ever do go with the adapter on a tank regulator you have to have some kind of bleed to depressure the hose, otherwise it's near impossible to get the hose off the gun foster fitting, and be sure the adapter is rated for the high psi and not the 800 psi that paintball guns use.

The one you bought has a bleed built into the body.

Something I've noticed, it doesn't look like it regulates. If you fill the ninja tank to 4500 psi, you will be letting 4500 psi straight into your gun bottle.

This is what I use. I have to carefull open the tank valve and slowly bring my gun up to the 3050 psi on my gun bottle.

Be extremely careful. If your gun bottle is a 4500 psi bottle all is well, if it's a 3k bottle go very slow filling it. Barely crack open the knob, you'll see the hose get pressured up and hear the gun foster fitting do a little tick telling you the gun bottle is getting air into it.
 
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UCChris said:
You're talking about the regulator? You may have to make a wood jig to clamp in a bench vice and use heat + strap wrench to get it off.
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Yes this.

Ugh that doesn’t sound good ugh

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A couple of options here. If you don't want to save the existing regulator then just wrap it a little, put it in a vise (if you have one) don't worry about the gauges or anything and find what you can to untwist the bottle.
We can only make a guess that the previous owner didn't use locktite

On my first one I wrapped a thick towel around the regulator, placed it in the vise, tightened it up and made sure the gauge and other parts weren't getting damaged and placed a strap wrench on the tank to get it off.
The second one I did came off much easier.

No need to take the screw out of the regulator body, that only takes off the top for when you want to access the spring and discs inside, it won't help to get the regulator off the bottle

No need to worry, be absolutely sure it is 100% empty and it will wind up coming off at some point.
 
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Rickrick said:
A couple of options here. If you don't want to save the existing regulator then just wrap it a little, put it in a vise (if you have one) don't worry about the gauges or anything and find what you can to untwist the bottle.
We can only make a guess that the previous owner didn't use locktite

On my first one I wrapped a thick towel around the regulator, placed it in the vise, tightened it up and made sure the gauge and other parts weren't getting damaged and placed a strap wrench on the tank to get it off.
The second one I did came off much easier.

No need to take the screw out of the regulator body, that only takes off the top for when you want to access the spring and discs inside, it won't help to get the regulator off the bottle

No need to worry, be absolutely sure it is 100% empty and it will wind up coming off at some point.
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I tried what you just said an hour ago and it won’t budge

Did you look at the pic I posted? Can it be that it is carbon wrapped in or epoxied?
 
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nah, its just set good ... put the end in a vise and use a big strap wrench on the bottle .. or you could probably use a jig saw to cut a couple of 2x4s on end to fit, drill them and tighten them on with some all thread rod .. screw your bench to the wall, get back about 6ft and yank on it lol ... nah but tension it up pretty good with the strap and tap the valve with a plastic mallet, prolly work ..
 
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Glem.Chally said:
I'd just throw that regulator in a vise and twist the tank off. So much leverage grabbing the tank to twist it.
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Tried it…won’t budge
bunkeru2k said:
Those are cheap junk regs. If smacking it with a hammer did not work, vise it up and use the strap wrench likes has been said. Those are $30 regs at best
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I did...not moving
 
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You are 100% sure the tank is empty.
Just double checking with ya

Did you ever get air out of the bottle when you were checking it
How did you depressure it, the only way you could is by taking it apart (bad idea if it has pressure)

or by using an adapter to press down on the regulator ball
or did you push down on the regulator ball and it was really easy to push in

I agree with dizzums, it's more than likely stuck, overtightened or a previous owner used some kind of locktite (which can still be undone with force)

I don't mean to offend but I do want to check also,
are you turning the regulator in the correct direction (nothing personal) turning it upside down can get us turned around at times, guilty of it myself plenty of times, righty tighty lefty loosy thing
 
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well if you REALLY want to use that tank, you have some limited options if they loctited it on.

1) take it to a pro to remove it
2) strip as much of the plastic and orings out of the reg as possible and apply heat locally and try to keep the tank itself cooled with wet cold rags
3) put the rubber mallet away and strap it into a vide with rubber and give the fill nipple some real hits with a real hammer. It looks to be stainless so it can some without snapping in most cases.

side note here.....Empire paintball SUCKS. They were one of the few who did loctite tanks with red well after everyone else realized there was no need.
 
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If there is any torque on a thread (any thread) you don't try to breake it slowly but with moment of inertia.
Also, if the outer head of the regulator is meant to be turned under pressure there will be a glue on the M18 (or whatever is the equivalent in inches).
I replaced the valve thread adapter on two FX bottles, both were glued in, need to heat the neck of a bottle carefully with a heat gun in order to break the bond.
 
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