HW/Weihrauch One out, one left to sell and one incoming. That's my last air rifle. For real this time.

I used to shoot 10 yards in my basement. It was good that I could tune and test right there. It was bad because it makes you feel like you're a hero. Sitting at a table its pretty common to get one pellet sized round hole five shot groups at ten yards. Then reality hits when you go outdoors and shoot 25-50 yards. 10 yards is so easy it gets boring, but it was great for tune testing.
IS the building lined up with your range ? Ceiling fans would make a nice touch for summer shooting benches.
 
IS the building lined up with your range ? Ceiling fans would make a nice touch for summer shooting benches.
I should be able to shoot out either end of the building because it'll have garage doors at both ends. I'm not sure fans will be practical near the garage doors. One ceiling will be too low. The other end will be too high. I typically shoot off the porch where I have a solid bench built. I can get 93 yards off that. I'd be lucky if I got 50 from the garage.
 
Yeah, but who isn’t?! Told someone last night my HW45 is the most fun and/or frustrating thing I’ve ever shot. And ain’t it all about fun in the end? Shop looking good.
I'm interested in a HW 45 or P1..in 177 caliber.. do you know if there's any difference between the two other than name.. a friend's HW 45 has fiber optic sights and the P1 I had 35 years ago I think had iron sights..
Mark
 
I'm interested in a HW 45 or P1..in 177 caliber.. do you know if there's any difference between the two other than name.. a friend's HW 45 has fiber optic sights and the P1 I had 35 years ago I think had iron sights..
Mark
Same gun. No fiber optics on the older ones and the older ones also didn’t have two power levels.
 
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I have a .177 cal Beeman P1 from first year of production (1985) which has two power levels - a big selling point at the time. The POI changes a huge amount at the different levels; low power actually hits much higher at short ranges due to less recoil-induced movement.

But I believe you are correct, I have a vague memory that this feature was omitted at some point, maybe just on .20 and .22 examples? But I could be wrong and don't know dates or details.
 
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Mine was originally a 20 cal P1. I installed a 177 barrel to save money on pellets. Its a simple swap. If I sell it, it goes with both barrels, a new oe spring and full seals. Although there's nothing wrong with it now. It's a ~2000 model without fiber optics. I don't know when they started FO.
 
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I have a .177 cal Beeman P1 from first year of production (1985) which has two power levels - a big selling point at the time. The POI changes a huge amount at the different levels; low power actually hits much higher at short ranges due to less recoil-induced movement.

But I believe you are correct, I have a vague memory that this feature was omitted at some point, maybe just on .20 and .22 examples? But I could be wrong and don't know dates or details.
All good points Mike. Do you think my P1 is worth more in original 20cal form?
 
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All good points Mike. Do you think my P1 is worth more in original 20cal form?
Being a Beeman product, I would think that being in .20 would add a little cachet to the pistol seeing as how .20 was the Docs pet caliber.
Set it up in .20 and include the .177 barrel would be my tactic.
 
All good points Mike. Do you think my P1 is worth more in original 20cal form?
I agree with Chuck - .20 cal would really be on point for a Beeman-labeled example.

Well, time for one of my trademark thread-wrecking non sequiturs...:rolleyes:: A thing that might re-kindle one's P1 love is the classic Beeman shoulder stock. The 18" pull works with the stock sights or a pistol scope, and the extra weight + shoulder anchorage = a pretty much recoilless 500 FPS carbine. Movement is eliminated to the point that iron sights need a taller front post (which Beeman included with the stock).

Years ago I briefly owned a second P1 just so I could keep one stocked, and kinda regret selling it. Sure, this setup is a little absurd - and arguably redundant if you have a nice light rifle like the HW 30 - but is a unique, fun, and surprisingly accurate shooter In its own right.

Stock is just lying on the gun here, and front sight is not mounted:
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35 years ago I had a P1 in 177 and a 22 barrel kit that I never put in.. I also don't remember two power levels..
it was a great gun.. I recently shot a friend's HW 45 and it had two power levels and fiber optic sights.. it's why I asked about the sights because other than not having a Beeman on the grip it seemed like the same gun but I was just wondering if HW 45 had fiber optic sights as like a upgrade from Beeman..
I would still like to get a 177 P1, would be nice to find a good condition used one, but they are only around $500 new.. so I don't know how much they are used..
I'd also like to find a Diana 54 in 177..
Mark
 
Put a scope on it and try again they are great pistols

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I might have in the past but I never found a set of rings that fit the 13.5mm dovetail. I believe the newer ones are 11mm. With my new contacts I can see the sights fine. Unless the added weight of scope tames the recoil I'm not sure it'll help me. The sights aren't the problem for me. It's the hold sensitivity. I'm better with one hand than two because there's less variables in the hold. It's the same with my 9mm.
 
I have a .177 cal Beeman P1 from first year of production (1985) which has two power levels - a big selling point at the time. The POI changes a huge amount at the different levels; low power actually hits much higher at short ranges due to less recoil-induced movement.

But I believe you are correct, I have a vague memory that this feature was omitted at some point, maybe just on .20 and .22 examples? But I could be wrong and don't know dates or details.
Really? Could be my faulty memory. My HW45 only has one power level. Considerably later than yours, 2005 or 2006.
I might have in the past but I never found a set of rings that fit the 13.5mm dovetail. I believe the newer ones are 11mm. With my new contacts I can see the sights fine. Unless the added weight of scope tames the recoil I'm not sure it'll help me. The sights aren't the problem for me. It's the hold sensitivity. I'm better with one hand than two because there's less variables in the hold. It's the same with my 9mm.
BKL makes a 2 piece set that converts to pic rail. Too tall for my taste. If you want to try them PM your address and I’ll ship to you. I bought a setup from the UK, very low dovetail to pic rail converter, stop block, and reflex sight. Love it. Link below. Whether anyone is shipping to US who knows?
 
Really? Could be my faulty memory. My HW45 only has one power level. Considerably later than yours, 2005 or 2006.

BKL makes a 2 piece set that converts to pic rail. Too tall for my taste. If you want to try them PM your address and I’ll ship to you. I bought a setup from the UK, very low dovetail to pic rail converter, stop block, and reflex sight. Love it. Link below. Whether anyone is shipping to US who knows?
Thanks I'm not gonna put an optic on it.
Btw mine was a 20 cal from ~2000. It has 2 power levels. It latches at half cock. I thinkon caliber (22?) didn't have the two power levels.

Edit The poi is so wildly different between the two power levels its a completely useless feature. You have to adjust the sights alot if you change powel levels. The low level is completely anemic to boot.
 
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Edit The poi is so wildly different between the two power levels its a completely useless feature. You have to adjust the sights alot if you change powel levels. The low level is completely anemic to boot.
"Wildly" is putting it mildly!

When I first got my P1 back in the 80's (OMG am I really that old), I sighted it in using a pellet trap in my garage. When I switched from high to low power, I couldn't find the corresponding holes In the target paper...because the pellets were embedded in the wall beyond, having passed completely over the top of the trap...! :oops:
 
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