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Night Scope Preference

Aloha Dan,

I have the ATN x sight 4k 5-20 and while it has never given me any troubles the only complaint I would have is the weight. I do most of my night hunts using a tripod, I used to carry my gun and the weight does get heavy and nights end so I decided to get a tripod. My only suggestion is no matter what IR night scope you decide on, get a good IR light. The light that came with my ATN is okay but I upgraded to a 38LRX sniper hog light.

Aloha, Keone
 
 

There are a few decent digital night vision scope set ups out there. Some are more decent than others.

This is not exactly a review cuz I only have a couple of these but more of listing of specs to make them easier to understand to choose between the units.

I have been trying to keep up with the less expensive nightvision stuff as it comes out it’s not an easy task sometimes. So I thought I would let you in on my findings on a few of them. I listed the specs on things that I thought really mattered and left some of the other specs out. Things like battery life, weight, sensor resolution, record resolution, FOV, minimum focus distance and refresh rates really matter and every one should consider them carefully before laying down the $$ and purchasing one of these units or you could be very disappointed.

Let’s talk about a few of these specs.

Battery life;  Most of these units are power hungry and have a fairly short battery life but most also have batteries that can be quickly replaced. If you purchase some decent rechargeable lithium batts, and a charger, you won’t have a problem if you are going to purchase batteries off the shelf to run them it can get spendy fast for the high use folks. So watch your battery life.

I have seen a few battery comparisons between the Pard008 and the ATN 4K units where somehow the Pard came out on top!!!! Actually as one can plainly see the ATN has 18hrs of battery life built in so way more than twice that of the Pard. With that much battery life it really does not matter that it is built into the unit.

Weight;  When you are out in the field an extra pound or two can be tiresome after a couple of hours lugging it around. Let’s face it most of these things are heavy as a brick with the exception of the Pard and the Nightshot 3x with the plastic case and lens which both weigh in at about 1.3 Lbs.

Sensor resolution; One would think this would be on top of the list as everything depends on this not on the screen or recording resolution. Without good sensor resolution the screen and recording resolutions suffer as they can do no better than the sensor used.

Record resolution; To get good vids you need at least 640x480 or better. If you want to see the pellet fly you need better than this. Your screen resolution has nothing to do with your recording resolution it’s only what you see at the moment.

FOV; Field Of View is extremely important if it’s not wide enough when you are getting up close and personal your quarry it will disappear in an instant or you won’t even be able to find it in the viewscreen. So wider is better.

Minimum focus distance; can mean a big deal if you are doing some close quarter pesting. It’s nice to be able to make out what you are shooting at and even better to see a nice clear video rather than a big blur. So ten yards is acceptable less is even better.

Refresh Rate; A slow refresh rate means you just see a blur or a jittery image when following a moving object in your scope. It’s the same when an object is moving in your field of view if you really want to see it you need a decent >30fps refresh rate. Want to see a moving pellet? Then you really need at minimum 120fps although 240fps is much better.

Apps; most of these scopes are lacking in apps that can be used. The ATN has more than its share and if you turn too many on it can slow the CPU down to a crawl making it difficult to do anything. So think about what you are doing. You don’t need to use them all at the same time.

I love that I can have the ATN and ABL units range an object apply software to compute not only the distance but the elevation change and move the reticle for the shot.



 The ATN 4K 3x14 and 6.5x20 has all the apps of the modern world.

Internal battery lasts 18hrs so plenty for a couple of long days/nights hunting

They do a good job of recording your shots with decent quality sound included

WiFi connects to your phone easily you can control the scope functions from the phone

Magnification There is a multi-step digital zoom feature 3x14 or 6.5X20 models

Adjustable Parallax

Great FOV 46' @ 100 yards for the 3X14 about half that for the 6.5X20

Minimum focus distance 16.4ft for the 3x14 or 32.8ft for the 6.5x20

CMOS resolution 3864x2218 At least I think that is what those numbers mean

Refresh rate 30, 60, 120Hz,

Video record resolution 1080P @ 30, 60, 120fps

Color day B/W night

They are built like a brick which is a plus

Weight 2LB heavy like a brick a minus

Color day B/W night

Supplied IR

Picatinny mount Supplied rings

Lots of Apps

I have one of the 3X14 scopes and with my limited use it is a great trouble free unit.

https://www.amazon.com/X-Sight-Smart-Night-Rifle-Compass/dp/B079TDC1XS



The ATN X-Sight LTV is much smaller, lighter Weight and lighter on features than the 4K

Battery life ratted at 10hours

Record video but not sound

No WiFi or Bluetooth

Magnification 3x9 multi-step variable

Adjustable parallax

FOV ?

Minimum Focus Distance?

CMOS resolution?

Refresh Rate 30fps

Vido record resolution 720P

Color by day B&W by night

Supplied IR

Weight 1.6lbs so lighter than most.

Picatinny mount Supplied rings



The Pard 008 6.5-13 is a much lighter, less complex and more compact scope.

Companion rangefinder available in the LRF model

Half the weight and size of the ATN 4K which are big pluses for the unit

Battery life is said to be 8 hours and is user replaceable.

Records your video sound is not so great.

WiFi connects to your phone but it can be a pain to find apps that werq to use with it.

Magnification Digital magnification either 6.5 or 13x

Adjustable parallax

FOV I have not been able to find that information but would speculate it would be near half of the ATN 3×14's 46' at 100 yards.

Minimum focus distance is 9.8ft the lowest in this group

CMOS resolution; I am unable to find this information

Refresh rate 30Hz

Video record resolution 1920x1080

Color day B/W night

Supplied IR

Decently built

Weight 1.3LB so a bit over half the weight of most of the others.

Kind of a funky Picatinny mounting system often requires shims

Very few apps

So if you can deal with a bunch less apps, 8 hr. battery and a bit of a funky mounting system but in a much more compact unit with a bit over half the weight of most of the rest of these scopes the Pard 008 is very good from what I have seen on YouTube.

I don't have one of these and am spoiled by the features of the heavy as a brick ATN. Else I would have a hard time deciding which to purchase.

https://www.amazon.com/Pard-lightest-Digital-Riflescope-Waterproof/dp/B07WPK1D3D

Link to another nightvision post with an in depth account of the Pard at the bottom

https://www.airgunnation.com/topic/pard-nv008p-vs-atn-4k-pro/#post-829961



The Sightmark Photon RT 4.5X42S is a bit less complex than the ATN but still a decent alternative

Newer units weigh in at slightly less than the ATN but it is still a heavyweight

Battery life is much lower like 3.5 hours with lithium batteries. User replaceable batts Optional plug in battery packs are available.

Records video and sound

WiFi connects to your phone easily

Magnification Two-step digital zoom 4.5-9

Adjustable parallax

FOV 22.5' @ 100 yards for the 4.5x9 or 24ft for the 3.5x14

Minimum focus 32.8ft for the 3.5-14

CMOS resolution 768x576

Refresh rate 50Hz

Video record resolution 640x480

B/W day and night

Supplied IR

Well built

Weight just under 2LB so near to a brick

Picatinny mount

Very few apps

I have one of these Photon units and it werqs quite well. There is an XT version with less resolution for less money.

https://www.amazon.com/Sightmark-SM18015-Digital-Riflescope-4-5x42S/dp/B078FHGXRT



Sightmark Wraith HD Night Vision Rifle Scope 2-16x 28mm a good alternative to the ATN and Pard units.

Battery life 3.5 to 4.5 hours 4XAA

Records Video no audio

No WiFi

Magnification only 2X lens zoom and 8X multi-step digital zoom

Adjustable Parallax

FOV 42ft @ 100 yards

Minimum focus distance 2x16 16.5ft 4x32 12ft

CMOS resolution 1920x1080

Refresh rate I see complaints of lagging video which usually points to slow refresh rates so I expect it would be near 30fps

Video record resolution 2x16 1920x1080, 4x32 1080x720

Color day B/W night

Supplied IR

Picatinny mount

Well built

Heavy 2LB+ heavier than a brick

The Wraith has very good HD resolution on both the sensor and screen. Specs would point to this unit having the best quality picture but I don’t have one so can’t say.

I did see a couple of videos on the Wraith though and it has great picture quality in daylight but even on a moonlit night it needs an IR illuminator. The Photon and most of the others will do fine without an illuminator in the same situation. So that is a minus for the Wraith.

https://www.midwayusa.com/product/102288033?pid=882357



Almost fergot the Nightshot 3X It is stripped down unit with very basic features

Much smaller, lighter and far less expensive than the most of these set ups

Plastic chassis and Plastic Lenses

It has a 5hr battery life 3hr with IR. User replaceable batteries

Does NOT record your shots

Does NOT have WiFi

Magnification; Fixed 3x magnification

Adjustable objective.

Much lower FOV than the 3×14 ATN

Minimum focus distance 10ft

CMOS resolution?

Refresh rate 30Hz

Video record resolution; No video recording screen resolution 640x480

Black and white day and night

Supplied IR

Picatinny mount

Build quality?

Weight 1.3LB

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B074CKJ1Z9/ref=cm_sw_em_r_mt_dp_5KJQ6P3XF9HWDV5YF36B



The Sytong HT 60 is the newcomer on the block

Only a couple of things are really different in the specs department. Other than that it is pretty much a duplicate of the Pard. The Pard is just a little more expensive.

On the positive side;

The Sytong costs $70 less than the equivalent Pard

It comes in a matt finish as opposed to the gloss finish of the Pard.

It also sports a nice screw in lens cap that is absent on the Pard.

In addition it uses the more modern USB3 Type-C plug adapter while the Pard uses the slightly dated USB2 Micro adapter.

On the negative side;

The Sytong does NOT at this time include a model with a laser rangefinder like the Pard. Although when looking at the Menu items on the unit it looks like the rangefinder may soon be added.

It does NOT have the one shot zero option.

It does NOT have an audible beep function available for when you push the buttons.

Speaking of buttons the button layout is also different between the two. The Sytong has ONE LESS button than the Pard has.

Other than a few minor differences in the cases that's about it on the differences between the Pard and the Sytong units.
 
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Thanks for the extensive feedback. Much more than I expected. I had purchased the cheap $100 monitor and camera scope version. I soon bought a better illuminator. It was OK for 50 yards or less but I did not like being on stage. Looking at a monitor mounted on your scope in the dark was like trying to hide with a spotlight on face. It was a fun first look into night vision, now I want something that will keep me better (and less illuminated). Thanks.



Dan