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I have thought about a semi auto, then rejected the idea, too much xtra internals. For the under $2000 I would get a FX Crown continuum .22 with a slug barrel. .22 for plinking cheaper ammo, and the slug barrel if you would want less wind deviation. Nice quiet, good round count, dependable, easy adjustment for high low power, good accuracy and ability to go up or down in calibers at a reasonable cost at home. Look at the vids at the beginning of the page.
 
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The reason few people are quiet is that the semi auto mechanics are still in the their first or second generation.I have shot the Huben K1 and it was nice, but I've also seen them completely jammed up where they need to be fully dis-assembled to clear them. This is probably the same for all first generation semi-auto.

Biathlon lever action or bolt action with a 10 shot mag in .22 is where you will get more recommendations. You also need to give a budget and tell us if you are mechanically inclined. Some guns need O-rings replaced often, some need mods to correct design issues and some are trouble free for many years.

There are premium guns with top notch US service and parts support at $1200+. 

There are CZ and Ukrainian bull-pups that are the most reliable in the world for $1300. O-rings are DIY only.

There are US assembled guns with good parts support, but very little service support for $600 un-regulated or $700 regulated. (for a little more there is a new and untested semi-auto from them).

There are $600 Turkish guns that generally have decent rifling in the barrel but crude machining that varies a bit from batch to batch. Some are good shooters with nice Walnut stocks, but rough triggers and cocking.

There are $300~450 Asian guns that are pretty accurate, but require some mods and tinkering to get the most out of them. One I like is regulated @$325 but requires a new aftermarket valve poppet at 2000 rounds and there is no factory support at all, although there is a top notch tuner in Long Island who will work on them occasionally.
 
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I talked to Bob at some length on the phone. He’s completely new at this. I suggested he buy a HW 30s urban pro from AOA. He’s not ready for a PCP yet in my opinion .He really only wants to buy one gun and the right one first (and last). BUT we all know how that goes. I needed to explain how a spring gun works. I suggested (almost insisted that he buy the HW 30 ) He wants to shoot from 25 to 50 yards. Let’s offer Bob some help. He’s in NJ there has to be some one relatively close who can mentor him and save him some money and a lot of wasted time. I told him I’m so sure the HW is the way to go I’d buy it from him if he’s not happy. What say you guys about buying the spring gun first ? Let’s not talk him into way more then he needs at least at this stage of his career 
 
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+1 the springer first. To use an analogy that he will understand. Every RC pilot wants to start out with a 1/4 scale Mustang or Spitfire, with scale flaps, retracts, landing lights and a 5hp gas motor with a smoke system. It is not the right place to start a new guy, even if money is no issue.

Learn to crawl, walk, run, then run a race. 
 
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So, this is what I did. A little more than $3,200 for everything you need to shoot as much as you want. It will shoot 3/4 inch groups at 75 yards. My Impact will do that or better at 100. This would not be my choice for a first gun and springers are hard to shoot accurately.

Lcs SK-19 $2000

A great reliable semi-auto that gobbles ammo and air and is fairly accurate.

Great White carbon tank. $800+

You need a big tank if you travel with the air gobbling gun. The plus is for the carrier and cover you may want to keep the tank safe.

Yong Heng compressor $300

A decent cheap Chinese compressor that just werqs.

Water filter $100

You need one of these gold filters to keep water and oil out of your tanks and guns.
 
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Hi Bob, I've been following this thread for a while, and wanted to chime in. PCPs are great, but the thing is you can easily jump off the deep end of the pool even though you're not familiar with deep water... By that I mean, unless you're certain this is what you want to do as a hobby, I'd recommend you start with one of two guns...

- First would be a quality springer, like an HW-30 or 50 package, something that is accurate and easy to shoot. Not a magnum springer. Or even something like the set up that AoA sells with scope, gun and case from Diana... This way you can get into it without buying a whole lot of equipment and see if its something you enjoy.

https://www.airgunsofarizona.com/spring-piston/weihrauch-hw30s-.177-urban-pro/

https://www.airgunsofarizona.com/spring-piston/weihrauch-hw50s-hunter/

https://www.airgunsofarizona.com/gas-ram-rifles/diana-am03-stealth-n-tec-combo/

- Second choice would be a gun like the .22 caliber Benjamin Marauder, a decent Hawke Vantage scope, and a hand pump. I think you can get a Marauder under $500 with the discount (does AGN still have that?). If you buy on Friday shipping is free... The Marauder has a small pressure cylinder and fills to 3000 psi, shoots down to about 1800 psi, and won't kill you to pump it back up. Some might recommend that Gauntlet, and they may be a good choice for a starter, I've never had one so I don't know...

Both these options get you a quality accurate gun that you can shoot and learn with, and if you end up deciding that this is your thing, then you can go for the higher end guns like Daystate, Brocock, FX, Vulcan, Taipan, Cricket, EDgun, etc... Just my two cents...

Mike


 
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Good advice Mike. I did not know the Marauder was that in expensive. Nor that it was a relatively easy gun to pump. Bob doesn't know about hand pumps. Bob they are not like the old multi pump guns which had a pump on them that you pumped up 5 to 10 times. This is more like a bicycle tire pump that you use to pump the tank that is on the gun. But that's a good option. I lean towards the HW 30 but a Maruader is a real good choice as well. This stuff gets addictive . Watch some of the video's that AOA has on their web sight about Daystates and Brocock guns to see what the high price guns are about. Hope we've helped you. Its up to you. Keep in mind if you buy main stream guns. Guns which are commonly sold they can always be resold. A marauder of an HW 30 or 50 would be an easy resell. Most people eventually buy some type of compressor if they go PCP but a hand pump would certainly get you started and depending on just how much shooting you do it might work well for you. Everything has it's pluses and negatives. Once you've reviewed all of this give me a call if you'd like to talk more. Lots of stuff on YouTube as well.
 
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