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Either a TX200 or an HW97K are the way to go. The TX200 is easier to work on and definitely a bit prettier but the 97K is a few hundred cheaper from Krale and is every bit of the shooter the TX200 is. I actually prefer my 97s over my TX but thats mostly just a matter of opinion. They just feel better in my hands.
 
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Either a TX200 or an HW97K are the way to go. The TX200 is easier to work on and definitely a bit prettier but the 97K is a few hundred cheaper from Krale and is every bit of the shooter the TX200 is. I actually prefer my 97s over my TX but thats mostly just a matter of opinion. They just feel better in my hands.
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Same thoughts but just the opposite for me, I am a TX fan. Biggest reason for me is the fit of the stock, the 97 pull is to long for my liking. Otherwise both are excellent choices!! If there is ayway possible try both before spending your hard earned bucks. Fit and comfort can go a long ways in shooting accuracy.
 
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Either a TX200 or an HW97K are the way to go. The TX200 is easier to work on and definitely a bit prettier but the 97K is a few hundred cheaper from Krale and is every bit of the shooter the TX200 is. I actually prefer my 97s over my TX but thats mostly just a matter of opinion. They just feel better in my hands.
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Same thoughts but just the opposite for me, I am a TX fan. Biggest reason for me is the fit of the stock, the 97 pull is to long for my liking. Otherwise both are excellent choices!! If there is ayway possible try both before spending your hard earned bucks. Fit and comfort can go a long ways in shooting accuracy.
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Agree 100%. A rifle that fits your body is probably one of the most important aspects once you get to this level of gun. Honestly, it probably doesn't matter what you buy first. You'll end up owning them both sooner or later anyway. 
 
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Either a TX200 or an HW97K are the way to go. The TX200 is easier to work on and definitely a bit prettier but the 97K is a few hundred cheaper from Krale and is every bit of the shooter the TX200 is. I actually prefer my 97s over my TX but thats mostly just a matter of opinion. They just feel better in my hands.
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Same thoughts but just the opposite for me, I am a TX fan. Biggest reason for me is the fit of the stock, the 97 pull is to long for my liking. Otherwise both are excellent choices!! If there is ayway possible try both before spending your hard earned bucks. Fit and comfort can go a long ways in shooting accuracy.
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Agree 100%. A rifle that fits your body is probably one of the most important aspects once you get to this level of gun. Honestly, it probably doesn't matter what you buy first. You'll end up owning them both sooner or later anyway.
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Probably right !!!
 
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Courious, what does he do to the gun? 

Being able to work on the gun myself is important. Pump guns NO FUN to work on.

Thanks for the info
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If you're capable of working on the guns yourself, just do so. A Vortek kit (my personal favorite) or a kit from ARH (also very nice) are both very easy to install and will make the guns shoot very, very well for you. My TX trigger was pretty nasty out of the box. The entire length of the first stage felt like it was dragging through sand. No big deal because that trigger is a dream to work on. An hour of time and a hand polish later, that trigger was smooth as butter.

John will absolutely do an amazing job, but if you like to work on tour own stuff, don't be afraid to go for it. These guns were meant to be played with!
 
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MK3, MK1 and an SR owner. The TX is a great gun.

I have also had my share of HW97 rifles. 


The TX is easy to work on but I give the nod the the HW trigger.



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I'd get the 97K. Actually, I'd buy a 77K since it's lighter, less muzzle heavy, and has the option for good open sights. Same internals and basic gun as the 97K. 

It has better powerplant dimensions than the TX, and tends to shoot smoother. It also isn't prone to lockup issues and eating breech seals like the TX. And it doesn't have the aggravating anti-beartrap ratchet of the TX. The 97K also has a positive locking under lever catch. The 97K doesn't have the cheap sintered steel cocking shoe that the TX uses either. 

I'm still puzzled as to why the biggest selling point of the TX200 is "it's easier to work on". 

Well yeah, and so were VW Beetles but that didn't make them better cars than a Mercedes. 

The money they ask for a new TX200 is wildly out of proportion to the quality, in my opinion. They are stunning looking, no denying that. But when push comes to shove, you get more for your money with a 97K. 

I've owned multiples of each, and still have the Weihrauchs. I don't miss the Air Arms. 

But you'll likely be happy with either. 




 
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The Air Arms has a brilliant shine to it that HW can not compare to. 

Attention to detail in the AA stocks big difference too.

That is the positives and here's the negative.

AA supposed to shoot perfectly tuned straight out of their box but some thing major must of happened or some one dropped the ball at the AA factory in their quality control department in England recently.

Just speculation may be they contracting China to make the internal parts cheap for them for more profit. That would explain the drop in smoothness compared to their the older TXs.

Wouldn't be so far fetched there's other much more higher priced Air Gun manufacturers using China for parts now a days rather than manufacturing 100% inhouse like they used to before. 

Perhaps too much emphasis on their deepest blackest shiny finishes and aesthetics over function.

HW on the other hand is a given buy brand new then install a Vortek kit right away.

Even AoA does it to brand new HW springers.
 
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Wow. There’s some real haters of the tx out there! 
honeslty, I’ve owned both, and I kept the tx. Was it better than the hw? No. I consider them equals. But my heritage is in the UK (as my forum name states), and so I kept the one made in my home land. I bought mine pre covid, and it DID shoot amazing right out of the box. So much so, that I haven’t touched it. It shoots where I aim it, and it’s not pellet fussy AT ALL. A real pleasure of a springer to have, and a heritage I will pass down to my kids and grandkids alike. 
 
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Batman, you bring up a good point...the newer AA are not the quality they used to be. I had the first factory left hand TX200 that came to the US, bought it from Jerry Thomas at WCA. That rifle was about perfect in quality and shot like a dream. About 5 years after my son bought a TX and it was also excellent. My youngest went with an HW77 and it was good but not the quality of the AA by no means. I had shot a 77 in competition for a couple years and it was good but no where near the TX. Forward until 2018, having retired and sold my MK1, I wanted another TX200, searched for over 6 months to find a MK 1or2 but no luck. Ended up with a MK3, nice but no where near as nice as the earlier models. From all the negatives on hea about the TX, I have never experienced any of them and have owned 4 different TX since 1991. I have worked on well over 200 of these rifles and the only wear part was the cocking shoe, a simple 5 dollar part. However I did find wear isues with the 3 HW77 models I owned with there cocking system. Bottom line is, AA quality has suffered over the years, my mk3 is not as good as my mk1 or mk2, however still fine rifles. The 77 and 97 are also fine rifles and have had there share of issues. I would challenge anyone to take apart a 77/97 as quickly as a TX. As I stated so many times ....try both and see which fits the best, comfort can be everything when shooting for accuracy....
 
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Batman, you bring up a good point...the newer AA are not the quality they used to be. I had the first factory left hand TX200 that came to the US, bought it from Jerry Thomas at WCA. That rifle was about perfect in quality and shot like a dream. About 5 years after my son bought a TX and it was also excellent. My youngest went with an HW77 and it was good but not the quality of the AA by no means. I had shot a 77 in competition for a couple years and it was good but no where near the TX. Forward until 2018, having retired and sold my MK1, I wanted another TX200, searched for over 6 months to find a MK 1or2 but no luck. Ended up with a MK3, nice but no where near as nice as the earlier models. From all the negatives on hea about the TX, I have never experienced any of them and have owned 4 different TX since 1991. I have worked on well over 200 of these rifles and the only wear part was the cocking shoe, a simple 5 dollar part. However I did find wear isues with the 3 HW77 models I owned with there cocking system. Bottom line is, AA quality has suffered over the years, my mk3 is not as good as my mk1 or mk2, however still fine rifles. The 77 and 97 are also fine rifles and have had there share of issues. I would challenge anyone to take apart a 77/97 as quickly as a TX. As I stated so many times ....try both and see which fits the best, comfort can be everything when shooting for accuracy....
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Explain the wear issues in the cocking linkage of the 77/97 that you had first hand experience with. 

The collective would benefit from knowing. 
 
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The slot in the bottom of the action where the cocking arm goes in, that area has been a wear issue for many years on HW guns. The thin sheetmetal stamping the slides under the trigger as a safety when cocking gets easily bent and many just remove them to stop the cocking issue, just like the AA guys removing the rachet spring or grinding the catch tooth down. I dont like that bear trap idea on the TX at all either, just saying that HW as well as AA have had there issues with annoying problems. 
 
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