Lol .. Yup, the .20 is so much more efficient than the smaller bore .177
So Jeff, how does the .20 shoot overall to the .177 ?
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New TM1000 Field Target Pistol
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So Jeff, how does the .20 shoot overall to the .177 ?
@Motorhead in .177cal at 12fpe for AAFTA FT Pistol, my pistol will shoot an honest 1 ragged hole at 35 yards from my sticks and bumbag in an FT shooting position. The .20cal is about .20 CTC at that distance, and I must be dead-on with my ranging. If I shot in the wind, which almost none of the courses I go to have any significant amount of wind, I would choose the .20cal over .177cal. I will keep mine in .20cal for the Cajuns and the Sonoran GP, and then make up my mind which caliber to shoot at the Nats. Either caliber, I really love how smooth the shot cycle is at 12fpe.
.20cal makes it easy to switch to 20fpe for EFT Pistol class, just by changing the spring preload, and there are more things to change to get 20fpe in .177, so if I want to shoot AAFTA and EFT Pistol then .20cal is the best choice.
.20cal makes it easy to switch to 20fpe for EFT Pistol class, just by changing the spring preload, and there are more things to change to get 20fpe in .177, so if I want to shoot AAFTA and EFT Pistol then .20cal is the best choice.
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Yea, playing with my own Theoben MFR at >12 fpe in .177, and the Production FT pistol the last couple weeks in .20, Had BOTH at one time in the R&D testing running at high enough reg set to do BOTH 12 & 20 fpe. Sadly as i knew going in a 20 fpe reg pressure would be excessive for 12 fpe requiring a much softer hammer strike. While each pistol could be set up that way, the compromise in ES value it was decided on that it was not ideal. On my personal MFR running 12 fpe having reg down @ 80-85 bar using a very light hammer & SSG worked better than a high reg setting using the heavier tho short stroke OEM hammer.
If i were to keep the Reg where 12 & 20fpe was just hammer strike tuned ... as the factory has it is great ... Just a different SSG cartridge sprung to differing rate would do that & be "Drop In"
Sweet rigs none the less .... I'd have one no problem
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I'm as far from a competitive shooter as you will find. I admit I'm a horrible shot, especially at 72 Y/O. But with that scope I just might be competitive. The scope is so huge and lashed to a very capable pistol it seems like cheating. I'm sure I'm alone in this opinion, but competitive pistol shooting in my mind should have scope limits, at least a scope weight limit,
maybe no scope. I found this pic so disturbing I went and read the AAFTA rules until I fell asleep.Upvote 0
Come and shoot a match in AAFTA Pistol or EFT Pistol before you start suggesting how we could make it better! You might just discover how hard it really is.I'm as far from a competitive shooter as you will find. I admit I'm a horrible shot, especially at 72 Y/O. But with that scope I just might be competitive. The scope is so huge and lashed to a very capable pistol it seems like cheating. I'm sure I'm alone in this opinion, but competitive pistol shooting in my mind should have scope limits, at least a scope weight limit,
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No you're not, I couldn't agree with you more. Check out the picture on this string with with the Hubble on it.Am I really the only one looking at this thing incredulously, and thinking "that's a pistol?"?
No offense meant, but how can you shoot that thing consistently without a rest? Looks heavier than some of my rifles.
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What is the shot count for the Thomas pistol configuration? Do both formats share similar rifled barrels?
I think it's wonderful that both pistols exist. I love my 1720. I wish I had FUN money for the high end stuff. I do own and acquire high end stuff but my fun budget is emptly
I think it's wonderful that both pistols exist. I love my 1720. I wish I had FUN money for the high end stuff. I do own and acquire high end stuff but my fun budget is emptly
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Thanks for sharing this!
It's a bad ass purpose built gun.
As a pistol in ft, I nearly cleaned the ft course in SoCal this past weekend, I only missed some standing shots. Was able to shoot match high score with it too.
I've built two and am working on a third setup now. These are excellent FT pistols, and can be easily swapped to a WFTF PCP rifle.
I'm currently working on a full power tune that can easily be swapped to 12fpe for pistol as well.
Here is what it looks like in rifle/ carbine configuration.
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Is your butt stock off the shelf or is made up of individual parts? Please give more information on your butt stock.
I have attached the current price list RAW emailed me.
View attachment 2024 RAW Price List_Retail_20240118.pdf
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I bought an ar-15 buffer tube from an AR-15 discount store, and the skeletonized Stock from a similar website. I'm unsure if I can post links for websites that are firearm related.
If you want the direct links you can pm me.
I'm glad to see the price is lower than they initially expected!
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