New SPA Artemis PP750

[mag_de_mars]

Wesbob is right.

11mm dovetail but only in front of magasine. On the back there is no Optic mount at all . The optics need to be a pistol style. With this mount we are too far 

 

[WesBob]

My apologies, thanks for clarifying. So the back end has no rail. That's news to me. 

Thanks, 

Wes 

 

[Endeavor]

Two pieces of 11mm rail, one in front of the magazine and one sliding on the barrel shroud.

https://youtu.be/-cuKHGD_OsA

 

[Fuciliere]

The sliding stock looks like it is well made and seems to slide very smoothly, for the sliding rail, its a nice concept.

 

[mag_de_mars]

I agree for the sliding part but too much in front to be used with a scope 

 

[WesBob]

Just a heads up that Snowpeak factory never started back up on the 3rd after the Chinese new year. The won't be back to work until the 17th now because of the virus, so I'm expecting the shipment will be a couple weeks behind schedule. I apologize for that, but not much that can be done about it.

Thanks, 

Wes 

 

[Hepotter]

It's ok Wes...that Coronavirus is nothing to sneeze at!!!



Senile, but well-intentioned...Uncle Hoot

 

[WesBob]

That's for sure

Thanks, 

Wes 

 

[Hepotter]

If a body wanted to mount a red dot or small optic behind the magazine, kindly note the rear iron sight is held in place by two screws. It would seem an easy task to measure center to center distance of the screw holes, drill out a short length of picatinny rail, and screw it in where the iron sight was previously located. I don't believe the magazine is too high off the breech to prevent this from working. One could always get a "high" optic mount for a scope, but I believe a red dot or other 1X optic would stick up high enough to clear the magazine.

Further, I didn't notice any graduated stops on the shoulder stock rails. It seemed to be either all in or all out. My concern is eyeball to lens distance for proper focus. I wonder if putting a tight o-ring on those rails could adjust how far back the buttplate goes.



Poor....senile.... but well intentioned, kindly 'Ol Uncle Hoot

 

[mag_de_mars]

Hepotter you're good

I take mesure of magazine height once at home.

Maybe add 2 more round on the rail to make the stock shorter

 

[mag_de_mars]

The magazine is up to 7mm from the dovetail 11mm 

this picatinny rail is 145mm long can do the job

 

[mag_de_mars]

the stock steel bar are 6mm diameter with a 4mm reduction to lock on the screw, maybe a good idea too to add more reduction to reduce the stock length

 

[Hepotter]

Here's two types of China's finest red dot optics, both have built-in picatinny mounts. The mounting bases are both 55mm/2.2" in length. Obviously the sight picture will not be affected by the magazine height above the breech if you choose to mount where the rear iron sight is located and the short base of the red dots should fit lengthwise with no problem.







Kindly 'Ol Uncle Hoot

"It's like I told my wife...I only look stupid!"

 

[mag_de_mars]

It's good for people who want to put a red dot, but i'm not sure for scope,. but in any case is a good solution

thank you Hepotter 

 

[Scouty]

I was just posting over on the Optics forum and remembered this thread.

I just received a Konus AS34 2-6x28 for my P-Rod.

It has a built in mount that can be flipped. It's dovetail on one side and picatinny on the other.

The way it fits on my P-Rod the mount is only in front of the magazine. I'm not sure it it will work in the PP750 but I thought I'd post it.

Here is a picture mounted direct on the dovetail side. The built in mount is just under 2.75" long, or about 68 mm.

It's a bit low for the P-Rod and will need a riser unless it would be used with a single shot tray only.

Note that this scope has parallax fixed at 100 yards. Unfortunately I didn't realize that until after it shipped (long story). To my untrained eye it looks like the parallax can be adjusted on this model but I'm new to all this so I posted over on the Optics forum.

Also, I have Hawke 20 mm red dot that mounts direct to my P-Rod. I mount it in front of the magazine and my vision is not affected when the magazine is in place. It just barely sneaks in below the ocular lens. I can post pictures of that if it will help anyone.

If anyone needs measurements on the Konus or the Hawke red dot let me know.

 

[WesBob]

That is a nice option for sure! 

I've got these offset mounts and these little 3-9x32 Hawkeye scopes that might work well too. 

https://airgunarcheryfun.ca/11mm-one-piece-scope-mounts-25-4-30mm-adjustable-elevation-and-windage/

https://airgunarcheryfun.ca/hawkeye-3-9x32-ao-ir-riflescope-mil-dot-reticle-and-locking-turret/

 

[Scouty]

Here is a picture mounted direct on the dovetail side. The built in mount is just under 2.75" long, or about 68 mm.

It's a bit low for the P-Rod and will need a riser unless it would be used with a single shot tray only.

I forgot to mention that as the scope is mounted above it has sufficient eye relief at 6x to sit that far forward on the P-Rod. 

I think that would be a good trait with the PP750 so the back of the scope and the telescopic stock are close to even when in the closed position. I've also tried a Bugbuster and an inexpensive Hawke 2-7 that just had to set too far off the back of the gun for sufficient eye relief.

I eventually want a folding or telescopic stock on the P-Rod so short eye relief scopes have pretty much been ruled out. Obviously a P-Rod and a PP750 aren't the same gun but with the forward dovetail I saw some similarities and wanted to post what I have found so far.

 

[JungleShooter]

Wes,

that Hawkeye scope made me curious — does this brand have any other scopes?

Matthias

 

[WesBob]

Hi

It's actually my own brand, lol, so that's it so far, but I'll probably get a few more models. 

Same guys that make OhHunt and Spike scopes make it. 

 

[JungleShooter]

Now, THAT is cool, Wes, that you have your own scope brand!!



Please, when you get a chance, send me the info that I couldn't find on the web — and I will include your scope in my Scope Specs Table for short scopes.

—Parallax side focus, or AO?

—Max. elevation adjustment range

—Springer rated?

—Warranty?

—SPF I assume?



Matthias