New RTI Prophet compact II in 22 caliber BIG $

[airgunmike56]

I really like my RTI Standerd 25/177 gun , Been wanting a compact , I see Tony at Talon Tunes has then on sale for 1,500 bucks wow, Just about to pull the trigger then I hear about the RTI Compact model II coming out , OK I get hold of RTI and want to put a deposit down on the new compact gun . Then I look at the invoice and its a little over 2000 dollars, Yes that's two thousand dollars , I like the concept of a simple build and the minimum O rings but I think its a little over priced,, I use hope they rethink this price ,,,,,

Mike 

 

[Brent]

Price of everything's going through the roof.

 

[L.Leon]

Yes, all the cool kids PCPs are now at the base, starting price of 2K USD. They're just joining the rest of the brands out there successfully selling at the higher than 2K price point. There are two Prophet LRs in the classifies right now, heck one is selling for 1K, practically new.

 

[davelarson]

It’s like everything follows inflation wether it makes sense or not. For a sheet of 1/4 in plate steel that’s 5x10 the cost is now $1018!! The steel is the same thing just like the gun and it doesn’t change, yet three weeks go by and it’s now $95 increase. I think it’s pretty much simple greed…and that the mentality is “everyone else is doing it so we better do it too”. It’s really pretty ugly isn’t it! Still though isn’t it awesome to have so many choices of powerful accurate guns these days? Just amazing.

 

[davecole]

Know the new Gen2 Prophets have a different barrel than the Gen1. If you watch and listen carefully to Gregor’s “unboxing” video he speaks around this when he starts to discuss the barrel at about the 13:30 mark. According to Gregor, they are more geared toward slugs although he claims it will shoot pellets “very well”. 
I’ve had one of the Gen1 Prophet Plus .22 standard for about a year and love it. And I’m not dissing RTI, the Prophet 2, slugs, pellets, Gregor et.al. But I would encourage anyone considering a Gen2 to carefully do their research before buying one so they don’t end up down the ammo/FPS/reg pressure rabbit hole after they get it.

 

[Dairyboy]

Yeah I went with the Prophet Compact .22 from Talon Tunes. Arrives today. Wasn't a huge fan of the new barrels and lengths. Don't need a balanced valve. Cocking lever change being frictioned isn't necessary to me. So older version for me. Especially at the price difference.

 

[Jasonmc]

Not sure about the new barrels or balanced valve's... I like.. more like love the barrel I have on my Prophet... shot count for the tune is great also... so the new barrels or valve is neither her nor there for me... but the new redesign cocking is a big deal the ball bearing (spring loaded detent ball) dug a good size groove into the soft aluminium. I fixed that issue with mine... glad to see RTI addressed that problem 

 

[airgunmike56]

Yea I was hoping the exchange rate for the dollar was wrong, I can see the FX guns in the big 2 grand range as there Taxs are over 50% and there Labor cost is very high compared to other places , But the RTI people there Taxs are low and there labor cost is also on the low side, I was a big RTI fan but not so much now . 

Mike

 

[airgunmike56]

Looks like the FX wildcat III has got my full sight and the new Prophet with is over priced gun I think is really going to be hard up for sales , I am going to send an E mail to RTI and tell then I think there product is WAY over priced , 

Mike

 

[Outer_Rondacker]

I was looking also and its just to much. My wife would tell you she sees the page up on the screen and tells me to just buy it but NO. I cant. I found a used one but still to much. Oh well for some reason I really liked the Prophet. I did heard the hammer spring is loud by your ear.

 

[airgunmike56]

I got this reply from RTI

From Subject Received Size Categories
RTI Arms Shop Re: New customer message on April 4, 2022 at 7:23 am 3:55 AM 14 KB

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In a nutshell they say everything has gone up I am entitled to my opinion and to buy what I like,, 

Mike

 

[dens228]

I got this reply from RTI

From Subject Received Size Categories
RTI Arms Shop Re: New customer message on April 4, 2022 at 7:23 am 3:55 AM 14 KB

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In a nutshell they say everything has gone up I am entitled to my opinion and to buy what I like,, 

Mike

Well, it is true.......lol

 

[Dairyboy]

Yeah I don't see the issue with it costing so much. It's a great gun. I don't "need" the upgrades so I went for the older model. But yeah prices are going up on everything so not surprised there prices do also.

 

[douger]

RTI MAKES GREAT UNS BEEN VERY HAPPY WITH MINE, HAD A COMPACT BUT KEPT MY LONGER MODEL FOR SHOT COUNT 

 

[Jasonmc]

RTI MAKES GREAT UNS BEEN VERY HAPPY WITH MINE, HAD A COMPACT BUT KEPT MY LONGER MODEL FOR SHOT COUNT

I am very interested in your thoughts on the full size Prophet vs the compact... your likes and dislikes. I have the full size and have been thinking about a conversion kit for mine. ( not to take away from the original OP question... please PM me on your thoughts)

 

[CoyoteGod]

RTI performance guns have always been expensive. Always in the high end category. I would expect to shell out some coin for one. I have had a perforce in .25 and it was a wonderful shooter. A little heavy, but really great. Some of the best magazines also in the biz. 

 

[Ed24]

Looks like I jumped into the RTI world today. Purchased a Priest 2 performance .177 today off the classifieds Been look'n for a good high performing 177. Almost bought a M3 but this saved me $1k. If this one works out may be selling my Maverick for the new Prophet???

 

[jmohme]

When the Prophet 2 was announced, I had already been planning on a full size Prophet Performance, so started looking for more seriously for the Prophet 1, hoping to find a little better price from anyone trying to clear out inventory. I ended up getting mine from Talon Tunes for the same price that others were charging for a compact.
It was a win for me.
I figure it will be a long time before my capabilities exceed the gun I ended up with.

 

[TMH]

When the Prophet 2 was announced, I had already been planning on a full size Prophet Performance, so started looking for more seriously for the Prophet 1, hoping to find a little better price from anyone trying to clear out inventory. I ended up getting mine from Talon Tunes for the same price that others were charging for a compact.
It was a win for me.
I figure it will be a long time before my capabilities exceed the gun I ended up with.

Buying on the downward slope of the technology/price curve can sure save lots of bucks. So many are caught up in the 'must have latest and greatest' marketing campaigns, whether it is cars, electronics, airguns, etc. So troglodytes like myself buy up the older technology as NOS from vendors preparing for the incoming newest stuff and save good money. I bought my NOS Prophet Performance .22 LR for less from a dealer than what I see folks trying to sell their used guns for. And even though it is now 'old technology', I am really enjoying the handling, shot count and accuracy!

But boy have airguns gotten expensive! You do a search for 'PCP air rifles' at a site like Airguns of Arizona (I'm not knocking AoA, just using them as an example), and it comes up with 7 pages of guns. And you have to go to page 5 of 7 before you even get below the $1,500 price point!

I thought my 'expensive' guns were highly priced a couple of years ago when I purchased them. Now I look back at those purchases as real bargains, where I should have bought more at the time. I'm glad I still have most of them. I recently did a trade-in with a dealer, and the trade value of my rifle was $50 more than the price I had paid for it new 2 years ago!

 

[Joedirt199]

I may pick up one of the new barrels for my compact as it has the larger dual transfer port commonly found on other performance rifles.