You got multiple pellets stuck in your barrel plain and simple no need to degass. You only wasting time and air here...
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Tuning NEW FX Wildcat Mk3 Sniper (.22) - NEED HELP, NEW GUN NOT SHOOTING
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All - Thanks for all your responses and help with this. I don't believe there are multiple pellets stuck in the barrel. I only ever cocked one pellet into the rifle, when the magazine was loaded into the gun, and when it didn't fire, I removed the magazine. But just to be sure...I'd like the check that real quick. How do I go about checking that there are no pellets loaded? What do I need to take apart? I already removed the shroud. Is it safe to check when there is air in the gun? I already filled it back up with air, after degassing it.
FYI: I'm watching a disassembly video on youtube right now, on the FX channel. Might help me figure out my way around this gun a bit.
FYI: I'm watching a disassembly video on youtube right now, on the FX channel. Might help me figure out my way around this gun a bit.
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Believe me Odoyle that especially when somebody is new to pcp’s like in this case degassing a system is a good advice before someone starts fiddling around with little or no experience. You mght be right with your “ diagnose” but I am for sure right with my advice.....
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In case you have max 2 pellets loaded they should “fly” out when firing the gun at max power (number 7 at the bottom of the wheel)
what pellets or slugs did you load ?
please handle your gun all the time as a loaded gun !!!! Be careful
what pellets or slugs did you load ?
please handle your gun all the time as a loaded gun !!!! Be careful
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Grab a wooden or fiberglass or carbon fiber dowel rod stick it in the barrel muzzle loader style cock the side lever open position push the pellets back in out of the breech.
If it's a real motha to push you probably got several pellets stuck.
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Put it on SAFE FIRST! Just in case you still got air in the plenum even after you degassed the gun and didn't crack the regulator manometer a little to release that remaining plenum air.
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UPDATE: Sorry for the delay in response. I had to go to the hardware store to get a slimmer wrench, to fit onto the manometer nut (didn't want to scratch or damage the gun with my fat wrenches). I have partially disassembled the rifle (see pic below), and pushed 2 pellets (JSB Exact 18gr .22) out of the barrel with a barrel cleaning rod. What should I do next? Should I reassemble the gun and air it back up, and then try to dry fire it (without pellet) to see if it pushes air out this time? Please advise!
Cheers,
Brett
Cheers,
Brett
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Reassemble then air or up and shoot it like normal and just don't double load it again.
Just put it on SAFE every time you cock it then always check if it's on SAFE b4 cocking it again to avoid doing it again.
Just put it on SAFE every time you cock it then always check if it's on SAFE b4 cocking it again to avoid doing it again.
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OK....I can not get this gun to air up for poop. The pellet probe is lined up with the barrel when I put it back together. Everything is correct. I can however, hear air escaping inside of the breach block after i give it a couple minutes worth of pumping (yes, im using a hand pump). What do I do now? It seems to be leaking air audibly, around the the hammer adjuster area. UGH.
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Cock it and put it on safe. Takes the spring pressure off the valve. And try pumping again.
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Since the spring does not put any pressure on the valve, cocking may not help. you can try tipping rifle muzzle up to ensure the hammer is not resting on the valve, but the valve spring should be stronger than the hammer weight, so that may not help.
Easiest way would be to find someone with an air tank.
I have heard that loading a pellet can do it, as when the probe is home, the air will be escaping down the barrel
[edit] keep the muzzle pointed in a safe direction, as the pellet may fly out when the pressure is high enough
Easiest way would be to find someone with an air tank.
I have heard that loading a pellet can do it, as when the probe is home, the air will be escaping down the barrel
[edit] keep the muzzle pointed in a safe direction, as the pellet may fly out when the pressure is high enough
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Actually loading ONE PELLET (always pointed in a safe direction) and put it on SAFE might be enough to air or up. Beware that ONE PELLET MAY shoot out all by itself even while on SAFE when airing it up from empty zero air that's why I say load 2 pellets.
IF the 2 pellet double load trick airing it up from zero air was successful...
Then remove the shroud crank the power up again try shoot them out if still no luck don't degass it put of on SAFE. Use the rod to unstuck the pellets while barrel is still on the gun shove the rod in muzzle loader style open the cocking lever to allow the pellets to be pushed out through the breech (magazine space).
IF the 2 pellet double load trick airing it up from zero air was successful...
Then remove the shroud crank the power up again try shoot them out if still no luck don't degass it put of on SAFE. Use the rod to unstuck the pellets while barrel is still on the gun shove the rod in muzzle loader style open the cocking lever to allow the pellets to be pushed out through the breech (magazine space).
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Are you sure the shipping lock has been removed?
Manufacturers put a little screw pointed out in the pic when they ship their airguns to the shops.
The shop where you bought your gun should have removed this but maybe they forgot?
Manufacturers put a little screw pointed out in the pic when they ship their airguns to the shops.
The shop where you bought your gun should have removed this but maybe they forgot?
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Check Pieterdg’s suggestion first !
Then Just cock it, fill it while it’s pissing air for about 45 sec. pressure will increase and shut the valve. You should use an air tank though as with a handpump you will most likely tap moisterous air into your gun . ( with most hand pumps ) and most likely you will lose fun pumping soon
Then Just cock it, fill it while it’s pissing air for about 45 sec. pressure will increase and shut the valve. You should use an air tank though as with a handpump you will most likely tap moisterous air into your gun . ( with most hand pumps ) and most likely you will lose fun pumping soon
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There are TWO things that can happen merely by degassing late model FX guns in general-
1- the regulator housing o-rings can become unseated and cause a leak.
2- the valve seal/seat may/might not stay shut even by refilling using a tank when starting from zero pressure.
NOTE the LONGER the gun stays empty with ZERO AIR the more likely ONE or BOTH issues are GONNA happen.
Loading 2 pellets before pumping it from zero air pressure DOES AND WILL WORK however it will not fix the other aforementioned leaks directly as a result of degassong the gun. THAT'S WHY YOU DON'T DILLY DALLY GET THAT GUN FILLED WITH AIR PRONTO THEN PRAY!!!
1- the regulator housing o-rings can become unseated and cause a leak.
2- the valve seal/seat may/might not stay shut even by refilling using a tank when starting from zero pressure.
NOTE the LONGER the gun stays empty with ZERO AIR the more likely ONE or BOTH issues are GONNA happen.
Loading 2 pellets before pumping it from zero air pressure DOES AND WILL WORK however it will not fix the other aforementioned leaks directly as a result of degassong the gun. THAT'S WHY YOU DON'T DILLY DALLY GET THAT GUN FILLED WITH AIR PRONTO THEN PRAY!!!
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@pieterdg - The shipping lock screw you describe, is still installed inside of my FX Wildcat. What exactly does this screw do? Does it prevent air from being fired through the gun? Also...I have tried every single size of allen wrench that I own, and none of them will fit into the screw. What size/kind of allen wrench do I need, to remove the screw?
All - To the rest of you, thanks for all your suggestions on getting the gun aired back up. Once I get this "lock" screw removed, I am going to load a pellet (or 2), and then attempt to refill the air cylinder. And as a side note, I am using an Air Venturi Mk5 pump kit by Hill. It has a desiccator with desiccant beads. Seems to be keeping moisture out fairly well, from what I can tell. Well....for $280.00, it better be!!! Lol.
Cheers,
Brett
All - To the rest of you, thanks for all your suggestions on getting the gun aired back up. Once I get this "lock" screw removed, I am going to load a pellet (or 2), and then attempt to refill the air cylinder. And as a side note, I am using an Air Venturi Mk5 pump kit by Hill. It has a desiccator with desiccant beads. Seems to be keeping moisture out fairly well, from what I can tell. Well....for $280.00, it better be!!! Lol.
Cheers,
Brett
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