New Daystates: 25 Wolverine 2 HP @ 70 ft/lbs, Pulsar 303, Renegade HP, and Saxon

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Daystate is has some really neat rifles lined up for 2017. We will finally be seeing an electronic big bore in the form of a 70 ft/lb Pulsar .303 and then there is the .25 Wolverine 2 HP that packs a whopping .70 ft/lbs! I sure chose the wrong time to get out of airguns :(

WOLVERINE 2 HP and WOLVERINE 2 HP HILITE
  • .22 - 60ft/lbs
  • .25 - 70ft/lbs <<<<<<<<<<<<<<< THIS WILL BE ONE HELL OF A RIFLE
  • .303 - 100ft/lbs
PULSAR .303
Finally. an electronic big bore. It should do 26 shots @ 70 ft/lbs.

RENEGADE 303 HP
Slightly more powerful at 80 ft/lbs.

WOLVERINE SAXON LIMITED EDITION
I'm sure they will cost a fortune but man, she sure is purdy.
  • Based on an updated and improved version of the popular Wolverine
  • Carbon fiber 480cc HiLite bottle
  • New stock by Techwood Designs in Laminate manufactured by Minelli of Italy
  • Unique Limited Edition finish
  • Exclusive Handmade Saxon hunting knife (serial number matches the rifle)
  • Custom Moderator and Shroud from Huggett Precision Products
  • Certificate of authenticity
  • Daystate hard case
  • Production run of just 150
  • 177: 220 shots @ 12 ft/lbs
  • .22: 290 shots @ sub 12 ft/lbs, 60 Shots @ 33+ ft/lbs
  • MSRP £1990.00
Saxon



Klingon Letters


Custom Huggett


Bespoke Knife

 
No, no, no! 

A 25 cal (with no power adjuster) needs to be 45-55fpe and 55fpe would be on the high side.

A 22 needs to be 25-35fpe depending on the length and type of gun.

If you break these very important rules then you end up with an overly loud air rifle with a disappointing number of shots per fil. You also have a very limited pellet choice because anything except the heaviest ones will shoot too hot. 

The only exception is a slug gun. 

I thought it was common knowledge now that just going after the maximum amount of power possible was a rookie mistake....

Ted did a review of the 70fpe version of the Air Ranger and the number of shots you got from a 500cc bottle was low enough to put most people off. It's ok if you need the extra power (and can turn it down when you don't) but my hunting experience has been that nothing survives a pellet at 50fpe but dies at 70fpe. 

Also, 50fpe is the absolute upper limit of what I would consider suitable for a backyard. Even 50fpe is pushing it imo. 
 
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"zebra"No, no, no! 

A 25 cal (with no power adjuster) needs to be 45-55fpe and 55fpe would be on the high side.

A 22 needs to be 25-35fpe depending on the length and type of gun.

If you break these very important rules then you end up with an overly loud air rifle with a disappointing number of shots per fil. You also have a very limited pellet choice because anything except the heaviest ones will shoot too hot. 

The only exception is a slug gun. 

I thought it was common knowledge now that just going after the maximum amount of power possible was a rookie mistake....

Ted did a review of the 70fpe version of the Air Ranger and the number of shots you got from a 500cc bottle was low enough to put most people off. It's ok if you need the extra power (and can turn it down when you don't) but my hunting experience has been that nothing survives a pellet at 50fpe but dies at 70fpe. 

Also, 50fpe is the absolute upper limit of what I would consider suitable for a backyard. Even 50fpe is pushing it imo.
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The Wolverine's titanium mono-block breach is much better suited to handle the power compared to two piece breech block found on the Air Ranger Extreme, The stiffer breech block also provides better support for the barrel as well which translates into less flex and vibration. Additionally, there have been changes made to the barrels on the new Wolverine 2. Per Tony B: "The latest Wolverine 2 is slightly shorter than the original version and the center of gravity moved rearwards for a better balance. Improvements incorporated into the latest batches of the match-grade German Walther barrel are included in the new rifle."

By the way, the power can be dialed down fairly easily on the Wolverines by shortening the stroke of the hammer via the turn of a screw. Though it may not be as convenient as having a power wheel, it is vastly easier to accomplish compared to adjusting the power on an Air Ranger.

I guess we will just have to wait for some actual real world reports on the new rifle to see if Daystate pulls it off.
 
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[email protected]! How come? If you could've heard the dialogue in my head when giving the guy at AOA my credit card number for the down payment...glad he told me it didn't come in .303...pre ordered the Air Venturi compressor instead.
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Sounds like it was an easy decision for you. lol. My favorite caliber is .22. I have reserved a .22 saxon. I know its expensive and makes absolutely no sense for me to get one since I have a hilite .22. Problem is the wolverine is my personal favorite air rifle and that one is just pretty.....and rare. lol. Most of the 150 made are sub 12ft lbs I bet. Of the 15 fac rifles that we are getting here stateside how many are .177 and how many are going to be .22? I bet there are very very few fac .22 saxons. According to the website they say the changes yeild alot more shots. I would like to know how many more.
 
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@Marksman3006...man, tell me about making "absolutely no sense!"
And the fact that I just dropped 2 stacks on a gun already and pre ordered a bunch of Benchmade knives ( my hobbies are way too expensive to make any sense ). Me personally, I didn't care about the shot count...I was going for pure aesthetics in a high powered rifle. Had it been in .30 cal I'd probably be in your shoes, too, contemplating getting my bread back. Those power output numbers are crazy! I'd like to see if accuracy is sacrificed. The Airforce line gets away with it gobbling air for decent accuracy...a hallmark of Daystate is exceptional accuracy (from what I hear and read), so it'll be interesting to see how they budget air.
 
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"Sam63" Travels4fun this would be the time to return to airguns. Do you know if the 70 fpe Air Wolf 25 will have a high and low setting like the original board? Wonder how much AoA will be charging. 
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Nah, I won't be returning to airguns any tine soon.

There was no mention of Daystate releasing a 70 ft/lbs Air Wolf. Assuming you meant the Pulsar 303, I 'm afraid I don't know how many power setting it will have.

Perhaps Tony B will chime in if he reads this post?
 
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