New Daystate flip magazine
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Thanks for the video. I like it better than the old magazine. I wonder if it will work in my .177 regal?
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I talked to AOA about the 10 count on the Redwolf. They said there was no fix and probably none coming. It’s disappointing because I could have used the count down. Maybe if they sell a $10,000 rifle it would be perfect lol
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As I understand it, the new magazine cures the gouging of the pellet probe issue. But in doing so the non-double load feature has been eliminated. I emailed AOA a few days ago asking whether Daystate will make some provision for in-warranty replacement of the old faulty magazines. As yet they have not responded.
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I just ordered a Wolverine from AOA, in .177, and requested one mag of each style. I'm not concerned about the old style stretching up the probe, I just want accuracy improved, guess we'll see. Building a mag that aligns properly isn't impossible, some other makers do it. Maybe DS has finally been embarrassed into action
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I’m not sure if this is a class problem, or if the squeaky wheel gets the grease. I’ve read some posts regarding issues with the DS magazines over the past year. Frankly, I’ve owned three DS Renegades, all in .22 caliber. And each one had two magazines. I never experienced any issues in any of those six magazines. I have friends that have DS like the Pulsar, Wolverine, and Renegade, in .22 and .25, and none of them have magazine issues. I’ve shot over 730 at 25M BR with my Renegade using the magazine... Lastly, I had on loan a .30 Safari and used the magazine for all my testing. No problems (other than the fact that it only held five pellets).
I guess what I’m saying is that DS has been making these magazines for over five years but to just recently start hearing about it is strange. Not saying those that reported issues didn’t have problems. Just wondering what percentage of all DS magazines sold actually have issues? 1%? 5% 25% ??? I tend to think it’s closer to the 1% Vice the higher numbers... IMHO.
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I'm not totally convinced the problem is in the magazine. I've had three Daystate rifles in which accuracy was diminished with mag use. That does not for sure mean the mag is the problem, but it darn sure means the use of the mag is the problem. This relates to the proper alignment of the mag, and that burden does not totally fall on the magazine. A spring loaded magazine can make the precision function of the magazine more challenging.
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On the Daystate owners forum some months ago they told me that there only know of 4 or 5 instances worldwide that have magazines causing probe damage. Interestingly, I have 2 guns that both have pellet probe damage...what are the odds? My Pulsar damage isn't bad but using the magazine on my Renegade actually puts a hole in the probe, the accuracy is bad and it goes through breech seals continually. Using it with the SST, no problems.
It seems to me that it was only a very few instances worldwide that Daystate would make some provision for those 4 or 5 unlucky people. Instead they do a complete redesign of the magazine and eliminated the actuator lever assembly that causes damage on just 4-5 guns worldwide? I don't buy it.
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They also locked that thread that people were chiming in and becoming new members just to comment in it.
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Had a FT match here in Florida today and decided to use the new magazine that I got from AOA two days ago. While in the sightin lane using the new mag I had a double load shot, have to pay closer attention. Used my .177 Red Wolf today and the new 13 shot magazine for the first two lanes and I got nervous about shooting another double load and went back to the old mags for the rest of the match. In winds of 5 to 15 mph and one target of a Troyer number of 64, hit that one twice, for a final score of 35/36. Love my RedWolf. Next match I’ll use my new Rowan single loader although the speed of the magazine is handy in the wind when you can bang off two shots on one target in less than ten seconds when someone else pulls the reset strings..
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I wish I had received the old magazine. The new one is fast loading and more shots. However possible double loading and loosing the counter is very poor planning on DayStates part.
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Personally, I never used the counter feature so I don't mind losing it. The non-double load was a feature that I did appreciate. Obviously the probe damage issue is widespread, contrary to what Daystate said, otherwise they wouldn't have made such radical changes in design. I've heard people have had good success with the Carm magazines, so I'll likely try one rather than give Daystate more of my hard earned cash. Plus it costs less than half as much.
I thought a far better alternative would be to manufacture a probe that is notched so that the actuator lever couldn't strike it. That way the old magazines would still work and all the functions could be retained. I posted a sketch of what I was proposing on the Daystate owners site (shown below) but they promptly deleted my post. I still think it would have made more sense to do as I suggested.
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