Hello guys I'm new on this forum and I need your help. I wanted to buy my first pcp and after searching for a month or so I'm just confused. I've used spring guns for years and I own a few of them ( my current favourite is Diana 56 ) but choosing spring guns was always an easy task.So when I decided to buy my first pcp Diana p1000 caught my eye so I started searching online about it and I found multiple owners were reporting issues like : skipping pellets and air leaks however it was reported that after these problems Diana solved the issues on new models but still customers were reporting skipping pellets even on new models. My dealer also told me if I want a good pcp I should go with the companies that are specialized in producing pcps like FX and Daystate. So I started browsing FX airguns to find the gun I was looking for ( low weight, accurate, high capacity air cylinder so I don't have to refill the cylinder every 40-50 shots and good ergonomics ) and soon I found what exactly I was looking for : FX impact , well the price was high but it looked like a gun which could answer my needs for a long time so I started watching reviews and it was just becoming better ans better in my opinion. So I checked to see if there are any reported problem about this airgun ( like diana p1000 ) and ... there were too many reported problems: O rings breaking, regulator problems, some accuracy issues and the list goes on. So I decided to choose another option and came with Royale 400 and bobcat but it was the same story, they both had more than a few unhappy customers because of different issues ( mostly leaks ).So I'm just lost, I don't want to make a mistake spending that much money on something that can't reliably shoot for quite some time. So I wanted to ask about your personal exprience with these guns. Are these problems that common or it's like 1 in 1000 products ?Thank you in advance, Roger
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More o'rings = more leaks. More adjust ability = more o'rings. If you have a high pressure airgun eventually you will have to change an o'ring. Just the nature of the beast. I just keep spares on hand to replace. Out of the two you mentioned, the Impact is the most adjustable gun on the market right now. The Royale however is a pretty good gun with some power adjustments and a lower failure rate. Both very accurate guns. I own both because of that.
Shooting a pcp is well worth dealing with these issues in my opinion. Keep in mind......... You will never get a post/thread that says "My airgun is not leaking today".
Shooting a pcp is well worth dealing with these issues in my opinion. Keep in mind......... You will never get a post/thread that says "My airgun is not leaking today".
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Thank you on your post Dirte. You are completly right, changing O rings is part of the maintainance on PCPs, however they have a life expectancy which is apparently much shorter on these guns ( based on customer reviews ) and even if O ring failure is all the problem they have I think I can get along with it. So air leak was the only problem you had on both ?
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Just an opinion. There are so many pcp's out there I would do as much research as I could. Narrow that down to several that I liked and fit my needs. I would buy the best gun I can afford that suits my needs. Nothing like buying something that you are not really happy with.
I have an Airforce Escape SS in .25 cal. I got it for hunting. It gives me about 20 good shots. It is light weight easy to use and maintain. Its very accurate and has plenty of power. It is not that expensive. I am hard on things and did not want a $1500-$2000 dollar gun that I know I would be taking out in the rain and harsh conditions. So it fits my needs very well.
That being said My first gun was a Benjamin Discovery. After investing another $300 dollars. I was still not happy. So now I have an inferior gun that cost more than my Escape that cost more than it.
Just think about your needs and what you want the gun for. There are plenty of people who bought $2000 guns and are not happy with them. Look in the classifieds. They are all over.
Eddie
I have an Airforce Escape SS in .25 cal. I got it for hunting. It gives me about 20 good shots. It is light weight easy to use and maintain. Its very accurate and has plenty of power. It is not that expensive. I am hard on things and did not want a $1500-$2000 dollar gun that I know I would be taking out in the rain and harsh conditions. So it fits my needs very well.
That being said My first gun was a Benjamin Discovery. After investing another $300 dollars. I was still not happy. So now I have an inferior gun that cost more than my Escape that cost more than it.
Just think about your needs and what you want the gun for. There are plenty of people who bought $2000 guns and are not happy with them. Look in the classifieds. They are all over.
Eddie
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I have had a breech leak on the royale (that will happen with general wear) that takes five minutes to repair and a valve seat break. I also shot 8000 pellets through it. The Impact I bought this spring has been trouble free. I know I will have some leaks on it at some point. The Crown will be out soon and I'm sure it being highly adjustable it will follow suit. Even Matt Dubber says all his airguns have had leaks at some point. All leaks are frustrating, but being somewhat mechanically inclined helps owning a pcp. It takes a lot of the worry out of owning one and doing the repair. I have found they are all similar on how they operate.
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Maybe u should take a look at the FX streamline the above guys are alright you going to have leaks at sometime after you fix one leak you'll be like all that was pretty easy and with this forum there's always plenty of help available I'm not saying that everything's going to be easy on an airgun to fix o rings shouldn't be that bad I think the Streamline lives up to its name more of a simpler type of model
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