I added a DonnFL Tanto to my HW50, it is now the quietest airgun I own, it is now quieter than my HW30.
All my guns except my 97K will eventually wear silencers.
All my guns except my 97K will eventually wear silencers.
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Need help choosing a springer
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The Weihrauch HW30S .177 Urban Pro Laminate near perfectly checks all the boxes for indoor shooting and I can see myself ordering one; however, about 50 yds behind our house is a stream with a 10' bank due to a rise in a field of several hundred acres. This would be a great place for spinners. Unfortunately, my neighbors are too close for rimfire use. The way we're set up, shooting an air rifle at this distance is safe and uneventful. I don't want to buy two rifles. What could I shoot comfortably and enjoyably in both situations?
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The HW50s isn't as hard to cock as you generally find people claiming online. I've taken a couple hundred shots in various shooting sessions and not felt any fatigue. I stick with my original recommendation. I've shot my scoped FWB300s at 50 yards, and they're quite accurate at that distance, ON A CALM DAY. Any wind at all and it loses it's fun factor quite quickly. That 6fpe realm of the HW30 and FWB300s is NOT a wind resistant power level, especially if you are gonna be shooting at 50 yards regularly. Higher fpe equals more chance of getting that pellet where you want it, but that only goes to a certain point with springers as the jumpy, jerky more powerful recoil goes up as power goes up. Like I originally said, 10-12 fpe is a nice compromise of enough power to not get frustrated by even the slightest of wind currents and tame enough recoil that the sproinger phenomenon is manageable.
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I don’t own an HW50 (Yet) have never even shot one, But... if I was a betting man, I would bet this is your gun. AoA has the Huntet edition. Almost identical to the HW30 Urban, minus the laminate 
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I will get one of these in the not too far future. Will set it to shoot sub 12fpe with a Vortek kit. I think the noise and difficulty to cock is somewhat overhyped. I have several Spring guns and some are harder to cock than others. So what? Most springers are not mouse fart quiet, but the silencers DO help. Between the silencer and the distance to your neighbors, the noise is negligible anyway.
BTW, I have shot my HW30 at 50 yards with Very Impressive results. About one inch group.
. I will get one of these in the not too far future. Will set it to shoot sub 12fpe with a Vortek kit. I think the noise and difficulty to cock is somewhat overhyped. I have several Spring guns and some are harder to cock than others. So what? Most springers are not mouse fart quiet, but the silencers DO help. Between the silencer and the distance to your neighbors, the noise is negligible anyway.
BTW, I have shot my HW30 at 50 yards with Very Impressive results. About one inch group.
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I'll put in my vote for the HW50s. It is designed to be that in between gun you seem to need. And in .177 to keep the velocity and trajectory up, and pellet cost down. Actually, this discussion made me want to go out and buy one myself.
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I don't own a HW30s but I understand it has a ball detent configuration for the barrel lock-up. It's rare to find people with problems but if you dig deep enough in old forum posts you can find a few instances where that ball lock-up wasnt completely consistent. It seems to have only been a couple of guns as most owners report fantastically accurate HW30s.
The HW50s has a chisel lock-up.
As far as the chisel vs ball detent lock-up being more reliable..................it very well may be one of those "everybody knows that" kinds of airgun forum FACT, that isn't necessarily fact, it's just been propagated as such for so long that everybody think's it's true.
If the ball detent of the hw30s has only been a problem on a rare couple of guns, there's no way to really test which is better, cuz 99% of the time, they're equally reliable in their lockup.
The HW50s has a chisel lock-up.
As far as the chisel vs ball detent lock-up being more reliable..................it very well may be one of those "everybody knows that" kinds of airgun forum FACT, that isn't necessarily fact, it's just been propagated as such for so long that everybody think's it's true.
If the ball detent of the hw30s has only been a problem on a rare couple of guns, there's no way to really test which is better, cuz 99% of the time, they're equally reliable in their lockup.
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G’day chemclay I to would recommend the HW50S over the Hw30. I recently traded my Hw30 177 cal for the HW50S 22 cal. The 30 was a very accurate airrifle but it was a lemon. I had too many issues with it, accuracy issues with the tightness of the pivot bolt, excess factory goo inside the rifle affecting poi shift, galling with the cocking arm then when the end of the cocking arm broke it was gone. I bought it new and in 4 months I had put through over 6000 pellets. As I said when everything was working as it should it was very accurate and fun to shoot. Anything past 30 metres to me was a waste of a pellet and if windy forget it. I haven’t read of anyone else experiencing the number of problems I had.
My HW50S is just as accurate as the 30 and I don’t have any issues with the cocking effort none more then my other springers. I was a little disappointed with the power of the 30 as I’m not a really good stalker and I couldn’t get close enough to my prey. There is a difference in noise levels but to me it’s mechanical, the 30 was quieter in that regard. It loves the H&N Greens 9.65 grain and those pellets really zip. Haven’t shot it past 36 metres but at that distance it groups very very well.
They are both very good airrifles but in my circumstances the 22 cal HW50S fills my needs.
Gary
My HW50S is just as accurate as the 30 and I don’t have any issues with the cocking effort none more then my other springers. I was a little disappointed with the power of the 30 as I’m not a really good stalker and I couldn’t get close enough to my prey. There is a difference in noise levels but to me it’s mechanical, the 30 was quieter in that regard. It loves the H&N Greens 9.65 grain and those pellets really zip. Haven’t shot it past 36 metres but at that distance it groups very very well.
They are both very good airrifles but in my circumstances the 22 cal HW50S fills my needs.
Gary
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Now that you mention you want to shoot 50 or more yards and taking into consideration you need quiet with the ability to shoot inside the house I would have to recommend a PCP and a cheap Chinese hand pump. Something like a 177 or 22 Benjamin Maximus or Discovery with a TKO silencer and an external power adjuster with a set stop point. Either should easily give you sub one inch groups at 50 yards. Just do a cheap trigger mod or replace the crappy trigger with an OEM Challenger trigger with a shim spacer and it's trigger guard. Under $500 for everything complete set up with a budget scope and rings. If you want to go all in quiet accurate and hand pump friendly an HW100k in either 177 or 22 at least it fits your HW criteria and very quiet. I can't seem to post pictures I just received my 22 HW100k mini bullpup to show you. I got one in 177 a week ago and liked it so much I bought another in 22. The HW100s and 110s and variants recently went on sale discounted $100.00 or more off. They all are excellent quiet accurate PCPs and IMHO as of now priced right. YO!
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Wow Yo; for me that's really movin' on up. I was just getting comfortable with the simplicity of a HW50s; nice idea to ponder though.
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