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ninja

ninja

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Right now I have a springer, but would like to up grade. I have used it to kill 21 ground squirrels in the last month with the iron sights. Every scope i put on it ether breaks or slides. I would like to be able to take anything from a dove to a raccoon without destroying the meat. I am only 15 so money is a problem. I am looking at the Benjamin Discovery and the Benjamin Trail NP2. I think that I like the 22. versions due to ammo price and the wider range of game. I would love any suggestion.
 
I know where you are coming from; I had same entry process and went from a Crossman nitro piston to a Day State. You have great shooting skills,but a gas piston (Benjamin Trail NP2) still shoots like a springer - needs skill, artillery hold, etc. A PCP is a different animal altogether; much more accurate for the same skill level. Unfortunately, its also more expensive when you factor in all the extras. At a minimum you need a pump, but after you get tired of that, a carbon fiber tank will make life much nicer. Also, once you get a PCP, you will appreciate a scope much more (unless you are super skilled) than open sights.


 
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Definitely steer clear of the nitro pistons, they're harsher than the springs and much much harder to work on.
If you're looking at a Disco, scoped will come to about $500 but you will have a light gun that requires little skill. Al thou it is super loud, you will want to get a LDC in the near future.
For less than that you could also get an RWS 350 Magnum, which with a good mount designed for it and a Leapers (good bang for your buck) scope should not disappoint and will shoot as accurate and about as hard as the Disco, althou heavier and harder to master.

 
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I was in your same situation about a year ago but went ahead and got the Discovery uprading from my Benjamin Trail Np. And the difference was amazing. The Discovery was more accurate, easier to shoot, and wasn't as heavy. Since you only have to pump this up to 2000 psi and not something like 3000 it's not bad at all really, just time consuming. For target shooting I got tired of pumping but for me 20 shots for hunting worked out fine. And as for taking down coons no problem at all i've killed about 7 of them and i've also knocked a ground-hog out at fifty yards before in the head. They just flop on the ground and there done. I recommend getting a used Discovery like i did just make sure that theres nothing wrong with it. I got a leapers scope, the gun, TKO muzzle brake, pump, some pellets, and there was some upgrade on the trigger for only 350$ that was one of the best deals i saw and the guy only lived 20 min away so if you want to save money i would try doing that.
Leo : )
 
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OK. I have a CVlife 3-9x56 red/green mil-dot illuminate optics. Put it on my Crosman Phantom screwed the seating pin into the oil hole and supper glued it to my dove tails. It still slid and i couldn't get a zero. Other than not staying put on my rifle the scope seems pretty good. The scope only cost $50 so that was cool. 
So what I am hearing is a big NO to nitro pistons and a yes to PCP.
 
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ninja said:
Thanks Leo but I already tried that. My phantom kicks harder than a 22.lr. I will keep hunting the clearance rack, so to speak.
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found this good reviews not the best but decent from what i have read on AGN gun and pump , don't listen to guys saying a pump is no good , i am 78 and i use a pump .
www.crosman.com

Crosman 3622 PCP Kit

Crosman 3622 PCP Kit The Crosman 3622 unleashes .22-caliber pinpoint PCP-powered accuracy at a down-to-earth price. Expect the 700 FPS of power to clear cans, varmints or bullseyes at 50 yards. Forget expensive refills, the hand pump friendly 2000 PSI res
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ninja said:
OK. I have a CVlife 3-9x56 red/green mil-dot illuminate optics. Put it on my Crosman Phantom screwed the seating pin into the oil hole and supper glued it to my dove tails. It still slid and i couldn't get a zero. Other than not staying put on my rifle the scope seems pretty good. The scope only cost $50 so that was cool.
So what I am hearing is a big NO to nitro pistons and a yes to PCP.
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Have you thoroughly cleaned the rail with alcohol? Can make a world of difference keeping your scope from slipping.;)
 
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Right off the bat, if your rifle kicks hard than a .22lr, it might well just need a good tweaking/lubing of the insides. Plenty of info here on how to go about it and there are likely a few members here that live somewhere close to you that would happily help.
Only break barrel I've owned in 50 plus that kicked that hard was a Walther Talon Magnum .22. Same rifle as the Hatsan 125 and shot just short of 24fpe depending on what pellets I was using.
From owning a few gas pistoned rifles, don't rule them out. They do shoot just as well as the spring powered ones, the only downside is waiting for that gas piston to start leaking and need to be replaced and why many don't like them.
 
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