So a little bit of time has passed and both Texans have been broken......waiting on parts.
Racheal at Airforce(Super friendly and easy to work with) sent me parts and spares. Very pleased with customer service, the holidays destroyed fast shipping times.
Bring you up to speed:
New Texan Carbine .357 after a few shots developed an air valve leak, Removed valve and found a split in the delrin poppet...like a moron I refilled it...leaking to see if it would reseal. Had the tank off of the gun on my brothers kitchen counter. Pressure reached 2000 psi it was barely hissing air, bleed down my hose and BOOM! the valve poppet broke in half launching the tank across the house destroying everything it contacted shot the top hat/valve stem into the counter and into my forearm.
I believe it was 2 days later and still afraid of the Texans The new SS .357 was much a less power level than the Carbine. Testing hammer settings and ammo over a chrono the valve poppet started leaking.
Contacted Airforce and they were more than kind, sending out a complete new air tank for the Carbine and a complete new upper valve assembly for the SS.
At this point the Carbine shot 150 grain in the mid 800 feet per second on an 85 degree day at 3000 psi and the SS was shooting the same ammo same maxed out power wheel and pressures at 746 fps........that's a huge difference.
Now you are caught up.
Today I changed the Carbine Tank and the SS valve and chronographed both. Same pressure,same 45 degree temp and the same ammo size and weights. Here are the results. 5 shot groups and refills between ammo changes
Texan Carbine .357 Texan SS .357
JSB 81 grain Full Power wheel JSB 81 grain Full Power Wheel
3000 PSI 3000 PSI
1020 fps 187 ft lbs 987 fps 175 ft lbs
984 fps 971
967 958
958 941
938 158 ft lbs 2200 psi 2200 psi 921 152 ft lbs
130 grain ,357 pure lead 3000 psi
849 208 ft lbs 849 208 ft lbs
823 823
813 813
797 803
793 2100 psi 181 ft lbs 790 2100 psi 180 ft lbs
150 grain .358 pure lead 3000 psi
816 221 ft lbs 803 214 ft lbs
800 792
790 780
774 767
767 195 ft lbs 2100 psi 748 146 ft lbs 2100 psi
So the new valve on the SS seems to make a difference so far. I have pulled both guns apart and measured every part they are all the same,I did not weigh the hammers.
My final thoughts are both guns are very accurate at the 30-50 yards I tested them. Both guns are lower power levels than I expected from a $1000 plus air rifle.
The SS at 3 times out of 10 shots I have to cycle the cocking lever again to allow the safety to release, I will contact Rachael on this issue.
The SS had a stripped screw that holds the trigger plate assembly, was holding one thread and was loose on arrival, Installed a longer screw.
I just expected 150 grains to be in the 900's.....I'll research what can be done.
The carbine will ring your ears and the SS is Quiet.
Both guns in fact do have the same 24.75" barrels
The SS loading area is for sure larger than the Carbine. I can only push almost half of any slug into the carbine before my finger hurts where as the SS I can push 90% of that same .358 slug into the bore
Accuracy wise the both favor a 148 grain wad cutter from a Lee .358 mold, assuming its due to the longer contact area.Clover leaf groups at 35 yards.
I do like that the higher up in weight I go the lower the fps spreads are and consistant.
Once both guns reach 2200 psi they both hover at that pressure for about 4-5 shots. Both are 10-12 useable shot guns per fill.
What are your thoughts on the results as there is not alot of info avalible on the ,357 short barrels?
Racheal at Airforce(Super friendly and easy to work with) sent me parts and spares. Very pleased with customer service, the holidays destroyed fast shipping times.
Bring you up to speed:
New Texan Carbine .357 after a few shots developed an air valve leak, Removed valve and found a split in the delrin poppet...like a moron I refilled it...leaking to see if it would reseal. Had the tank off of the gun on my brothers kitchen counter. Pressure reached 2000 psi it was barely hissing air, bleed down my hose and BOOM! the valve poppet broke in half launching the tank across the house destroying everything it contacted shot the top hat/valve stem into the counter and into my forearm.
I believe it was 2 days later and still afraid of the Texans The new SS .357 was much a less power level than the Carbine. Testing hammer settings and ammo over a chrono the valve poppet started leaking.
Contacted Airforce and they were more than kind, sending out a complete new air tank for the Carbine and a complete new upper valve assembly for the SS.
At this point the Carbine shot 150 grain in the mid 800 feet per second on an 85 degree day at 3000 psi and the SS was shooting the same ammo same maxed out power wheel and pressures at 746 fps........that's a huge difference.
Now you are caught up.
Today I changed the Carbine Tank and the SS valve and chronographed both. Same pressure,same 45 degree temp and the same ammo size and weights. Here are the results. 5 shot groups and refills between ammo changes
Texan Carbine .357 Texan SS .357
JSB 81 grain Full Power wheel JSB 81 grain Full Power Wheel
3000 PSI 3000 PSI
1020 fps 187 ft lbs 987 fps 175 ft lbs
984 fps 971
967 958
958 941
938 158 ft lbs 2200 psi 2200 psi 921 152 ft lbs
130 grain ,357 pure lead 3000 psi
849 208 ft lbs 849 208 ft lbs
823 823
813 813
797 803
793 2100 psi 181 ft lbs 790 2100 psi 180 ft lbs
150 grain .358 pure lead 3000 psi
816 221 ft lbs 803 214 ft lbs
800 792
790 780
774 767
767 195 ft lbs 2100 psi 748 146 ft lbs 2100 psi
So the new valve on the SS seems to make a difference so far. I have pulled both guns apart and measured every part they are all the same,I did not weigh the hammers.
My final thoughts are both guns are very accurate at the 30-50 yards I tested them. Both guns are lower power levels than I expected from a $1000 plus air rifle.
The SS at 3 times out of 10 shots I have to cycle the cocking lever again to allow the safety to release, I will contact Rachael on this issue.
The SS had a stripped screw that holds the trigger plate assembly, was holding one thread and was loose on arrival, Installed a longer screw.
I just expected 150 grains to be in the 900's.....I'll research what can be done.
The carbine will ring your ears and the SS is Quiet.
Both guns in fact do have the same 24.75" barrels
The SS loading area is for sure larger than the Carbine. I can only push almost half of any slug into the carbine before my finger hurts where as the SS I can push 90% of that same .358 slug into the bore
Accuracy wise the both favor a 148 grain wad cutter from a Lee .358 mold, assuming its due to the longer contact area.Clover leaf groups at 35 yards.
I do like that the higher up in weight I go the lower the fps spreads are and consistant.
Once both guns reach 2200 psi they both hover at that pressure for about 4-5 shots. Both are 10-12 useable shot guns per fill.
What are your thoughts on the results as there is not alot of info avalible on the ,357 short barrels?
