My final conclusion about shooting PCP's.

[Emu]

What I have seen is that there is a point in which you can have one or twenty super accurate rifles. It doesn't matter, those super accurate rifles will have you behind pulling the trigger. In that particular point all super rifles get even and groups may not close at long distance.

Therefore at some point there's is more gain shooting a rifle that you know and that you can control with confidence, than trying to buy the most accurate rifle in the market. Eventually with that rifle you will be stopped by your skills and the difference with the second or third more accurate will be vanished.

 

[JimD]

I think I agree. I look at accuracy as a question. Is it accurate enough for what I want to do with it? My P35-25 is much worse on the 30 yard challenge than my P35-177 or P35-22 but it has killed the most squirrels by far. I've had it longer. It is accurate enough to reliably hit squirrels where I am aiming at them. It just isn't very good at target shooting. My P35-22 is the most accurate and I am debating whether it makes any sense to buy a much higher priced rifle just to possibly gain a bit of accuracy. Probably not. But it would also have more power and could be much easier to change the regulator. It would have other nice features. Probably a better trigger. But cost three times as much, roughly. I don't really need more power or accuracy for what I am doing with my air guns. It's fun to try new things but it can be difficult to logically justify continuing to buy more guns. Might do it anyway, of course.

 

[Long_Gun_Dallas]

As far as I'm concerned, better function offsets faltering skill. If your skill is bad enough, it won't matter. In any case, I'd rather have the most pleasant, most capable, most cooperative gun on my shoulder. Or at least as close as I can get. Sadly, some guns, will never rise above a certain level of refinement. Without completely re-engineering the whole thing... At which point, you don't even have the same gun anymore. Of which of course there are all types ranging from crude club, to precision maserpiece.

If you are perfectly capable and comfortable with a less refined tool, then that's great. Generally means you end up spending less.

Another aspect of this is actually getting something more refined. Opens your eyes to what you've been missing, and automatically down-grades anything less refined.

Some hobbies I actively employ a tactic where I do not surpass a certain level of quality/expense/refinement because I am perfectly happy with what I have. Getting something better would alter my perception or experience of that. Altered expectations.

 

[cavedweller]

What I have seen is that there is a point in which you can have one or twenty super accurate rifles. It doesn't matter, those super accurate rifles will have you behind pulling the trigger. In that particular point all super rifles get even and groups may not close at long distance.

Therefore at some point theirs is more gain shooting a rifle that you know and that you can control with confidence, than trying to buy the most accurate rifle in the market. Eventually with that rifle you will be stopped by your skills and the difference with the second or third more accurate will be vanished.

Truth

 

[RickH]

I’m fortunate enough to have several air guns of different types and discovered long ago that just because I shoot one well doesn’t mean I can shoot them all just as well or better. They all have their own personalities so to speak and I have to learn each one to get the most from it and myself. Several are also intended for different special uses, target, benchrest, hunting or whatever. I’m not likely to take the rifle I bought and tuned for match shooting into the woods to hunt squirrels. It can do it but I have others that do it better. Then again I’m probably not going to take my Crosman 760 to the CMP match in September. As long as I’m enjoying it…..

Rick H.

 

[JungleShooter]

My final conclusion about PCPs?

Not sure I've come down that far the PCP road, or the airgunning road to draw that final conclusion just yet.

However, I do have some intermediate conclusions about PCPs:
So, here they are (link below) — a new perspective when buying guns/scopes:

Cheers,
Matthias

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[Vana2]

My perspective is that every gun is a tack-driver - within it's effective range. Presuming a 3/8" tack, that range might be measured in inches, feet or yards.

I have a variety of airguns (including PCPs that range from 5 to 50 fpe) that have different effective ranges. Maximum power or maximum accuracy or maximum range don't mean much, I enjoy them all.

Guess that it's about the challenge and not the results for me. Hitting a pop can at 50 yards is ho-hum with a PCP, doing that with a little springer is challenging.

But then I prefer to put the onus on skill over equipment. A homemade wooden bow is perfectly capable of taking deer (done that many times), you don't need the fancy stuff if you know what you are doing and are skilled with the tools available. You just have to work within the effective range.

Each to their own eh?

Cheers!

 

[Stubbers]

My perspective is that every gun is a tack-driver - within it's effective range. Presuming a 3/8" tack, that range might be measured in inches, feet or yards.

I have a variety of airguns (including PCPs that range from 5 to 50 fpe) that have different effective ranges. Maximum power or maximum accuracy or maximum range don't mean much, I enjoy them all.

Guess that it's about the challenge and not the results for me. Hitting a pop can at 50 yards is ho-hum with a PCP, doing that with a little springer is challenging.

But then I prefer to put the onus on skill over equipment. A homemade wooden bow is perfectly capable of taking deer (done that many times), you don't need the fancy stuff if you know what you are doing and are skilled with the tools available. You just have to work within the effective range.

Each to their own eh?

Cheers!

I must agree, if your hammer system is polished and consistent, sear is releasing consistent, barrel is releasing pellets consistent, regulator holding air consistent between shots, valve is releasing metered air consistent (all these are pretty much a given in a decent built pcp...) then its ultimately up to the shooter, ammunition and conditions...

Sure some guns can be or are finicky, truly, not all come from the factory as tack drivers, but imo they all have near potential even if it comes down to replacing a part of the system, rarely is the system as a whole trash bin worthy...although I could name a few.

Most all pcp's are equally a tack driver.

-Matt

 

[Emu]

After posting this comment I have been shooting at 100 yards with diverse PCPs.

It is easier to obtain accuracy from a Daystste with electronics if everything works well. Absolutely truth…… BUT…….

If you do things right you can get same accuracy of better from other rifles.

If you have a rifle that is accurate and powerful enough for your needs, I would like to be emphatic: you will obtain more from getting to know and control such rifle than from being buying rifle after rifle just to try to obtain perfection (limited by wind, projectile, shooter and combination of all of them).

 

[elh0102]

Ansel Adams once said, in reference to the camera, "its most important component is the 12 inches behind it". I think the same can be said of almost any human endeavor, it's all in the dedication to practice. And as Gary Player famously said about lucky golf shots, "the more I practice the luckier I get".

 

[Gr8Recreation]

Player had discipline-