That has to be the prettiest pumper I’ve ever seen. If it shoots anything like it looks, it’s a definite keeper.
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Benjamin 312, Benjamin 317, Crossman 140, and Crossman 1400. Killing energy for a 22 or 20 cal pumper would be fine for chipmunks at 50 yards, as I think 3-4 fpe would be enough. Even if the pumpers were scoped, 50 - 60 yards would be hard for me to shoot a chipmunk accurately. Base on my shooting, 30 yards is my limit. I have killed squirrels at 50 yards with my scoped FWB 124D, as it has the power and accuracy. I have had 1" groups at 55 yards, but not consistently. I did 2" groups at 80 yards with my Xisco B28 (Diana 350 clone), but not consistently. However, I am sure I would be more consistent with a PCP. I just do not like them.
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Yes it’s easier with the pcp but I currently am without a compressor n that’s what made me wonder about improvements made to pumpers since I last had one 30 years ago
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With plenty of practice one will get the definitive answer if it can or can’t. I like shooting. Even if so many say it’s a waste of time. That is part of it spending time enjoying something.
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50 yards is a maybe. My 362 make 14 ft lbs, and we shoot field target distances with 12 ft lbs. I can't verify that it can, because I only scoped it for 1 afternoon of pellet testing the day I got it. It has been iron sights only since then. I can hit spinners out to 40 yards without having to change sight settings, so that is where I stop with that one.
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Pump guns and PCP’s have the exact same are delivery. It is high pressure air released by a valve. The only difference is how the high pressure air is achieved, one has a multiple shot tank of air, the other doesn’t.
So them basically being the same platform how would that result in a PCP being accurate and a pump gun not?
Same pellet, same air delivery, same hammers and valves.
So them basically being the same platform how would that result in a PCP being accurate and a pump gun not?
Same pellet, same air delivery, same hammers and valves.
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If you have been away from airguns for 30 years, then IMHO just skip pumpers and buy a high quality spring gun. An hw95 in either .177 or .22 would be capable out to 50 yards, and would give you decades of shooting enjoyment with little to no maintenance.
Pumpers never made any sense to me. Unless you always use the same number of pumps, you will have variations in POI. Just cock the gun, and be done with it.
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Pumpers never made any sense to me. Unless you always use the same number of pumps, you will have variations in POI. Just cock the gun, and be done with it.
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We share the same opinion. But I haven’t been at it for a long time so I thought I’d pick some brains here. Have heard interesting points but enough practice I feel it can be done. My vapor max fell apart after two weeks so that ones out
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I bought a pair of Crosman 362 and converted them to .177 with a steel breech. I chopped and crowned them just ahead of the barrel band and upgraded the trigger blade to one from Baker.
Well worth the budget price.
Well worth the budget price.
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You bet! I get it, the journey is more enjoyable & enlightening than the destination. Took me a year & a half (or 2) to become a confident 75 yard shooter with not so great guns. What I learned about them & myself was invaluable & enjoyable & helped me to become much more capable.
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I’ve lived by the old saying if you don’t try you don’t know. It’s impressive how much air rifles n powder burners lean on each other n improve skills in both areas
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They like just about whatever I feed then.
I have over 100 airguns and have sold or traded at least that many more. Too hard to keep track of all of them. I plink so I am more interested in accuracy in pumpers. Not like PCP where efficiency is much more important to me.
We have several matching pumpers that my wife and I compete against each other in shooting games. I can tell you that 5 pumps can make a real mess of a paintball at 35 yards.... and a little green army men will go home with a purple heart.
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My collection is just starting. I don’t have that going on yet. Atleast not with air rifles.They like just about whatever I feed then.
I have over 100 airguns and have sold or traded at least that many more. Too hard to keep track of all of them. I plink so I am more interested in accuracy in pumpers. Not like PCP where efficiency is much more important to me.
We have several matching pumpers that my wife and I compete against each other in shooting games. I can tell you that 5 pumps can make a real mess of a paintball at 35 yards.... and a little green army men will go home with a purple heart.
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In my view , the accuracy difference is more about the sighting systems than the delivery mechanism. The majority of pumpers are engineered to be lighter and handier and poor facility for scoping. Scoping a soldered breech is a bad idea anyway. Add to this the variability of the velocity when using different pump numbers and one could see them not being equal on paper. ALL my pumpers remainingin my collection will hit what I can see, so the accuracy is very on par with the sighting system. I prefer peeps for their precision and light/compact form on most.
Two of my pumpers can comfortably wear scopes and they will run with the best pcp's ... the Daystate Sportsman , and the Sharp Ace Target. I really should do the 30 yard challenge with them just to see HOW good... My Sportsman wears a Beeman Blue Ribbon 2-7x and sits by the door for my yard pester. Everything is within 40 yards and 2 pumps is 12 ft lb. Flies and rock squirrel heads are very endangered in that range.
So I agree on the question of WHY would they not be equally accurate ?
Bob
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It’s interesting to get opinions on here. If you are willing to look at it from a different point of view. Some pumpers just ain’t made sturdy enough. Vapor max. But I like a challenge n shooting so it’s a learning experience. Do appreciate the opinions n lack of negativity I find on most of the internet. Thanks n shoot straight
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I shoot my Steyr LGB1 which is 6 fpe at 100y occasionally for the heck of it and at 50y more frequently than that. It's nothing more than compensation for drop and drift. Yes it takes a few more pellets to hit stuff but pellets are cheap and it's fun to do it on a calmer day.
Nah, OP just get a decent quality compressor and so staying with pcp. Hand pumping more than a few for each shot isn't worth the hassle.
I don't like springers all that much but I'd rather use one than pumping a bunch any day.
Or get yourself into a 12 fpe 22 cal that has a large bottle. Should get 400 shots before needing a refill, maybe over 500 with 700cc bottle.
Nah, OP just get a decent quality compressor and so staying with pcp. Hand pumping more than a few for each shot isn't worth the hassle.
I don't like springers all that much but I'd rather use one than pumping a bunch any day.
Or get yourself into a 12 fpe 22 cal that has a large bottle. Should get 400 shots before needing a refill, maybe over 500 with 700cc bottle.
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