I have collected over the years many different years and dies of Crossman premier’s. I was able to buy out the inventory of a former top-tier national field target shooter after he went to 12 foot pounds. These were die A from 2008. They don’t have the reputation of the older die two and die six pellets, Maybe they should. He tied for first at nationals shooting these. I also bought up the stock from a former world champion, similar situation, I just happen to shoot with both these guys.
It’s interesting your question about The caliber of pellets and what does the best at long range.
The obvious answer is the 25. A year ago everyone thought the 22 was the way to go. Frankly the heavy 22 to re-designs, Have been a huge disappointment for me. They were all the hype a year ago. I think a few guys got some good lots of pellets. I had maybe 2 tins out of 40 that were pretty good.
if I wanted to shoot a really tiny group at 100 yards. I would go with JSB 25 caliber kings, shooting at around 890 ft./s. That combination only works in extremely good conditions. In fact, trying to shoot a group of like the one posted above, in anything but absolutely mint conditions, in my opinion isn’t going to happen.
Below are some targets from that set up.
My second choice would be a 22, shooting 18 Grain JSB, Again at 890 ft./s. One summer I was fixated on shooting 10 shot groups. The results for my 22 are below. One day I shot seven groups under MOA, 10 shots each. This was in 2012. Targets below. One year before that I would’ve thought it was absolutely impossible to shoot a 10 shot group under an inch.
Targets from that rig below.
then we step into today’s world. Rifles that shoot at the speed of sound. Which by the way was not supposed to work. Everyone knows that you can’t accurately shoot pellets anywhere near the speed of sound, let alone breaking it...These rifles can also be easily adjusted for power. I know I’m stating the obvious but it is a big change. Here are some five shot groups with my relatively new to me 25 red wolf. These were kings, shooting very fast.
and here are 10 shots, shooting 18 grain silver 10 JS bees at over 1000 ft./s.
I think if I were going to buy one rifle in one caliber to shoot at long range. I’d be looking at a used red wolf, there are many of them around right now. Make sure it has the newest board. And I would go with either 25 or 22. Probably leaning towards the 25 because I think there are better pellets available for long range shooting. They are more expensive.
Until last week I had never shot a group with a 17 caliber pellet gun that was less than half inch at 100 yards. I had shot half MOA groups.
I didn’t get into slugs on purpose because I’m not an expert at all. I have tried knockouts in my 22 red wolf, with great success. They shoot so much better than the 22 redesign pellet, it’s not even comparable. Out of my rifle, they actually hit 8 inches higher than the redesign pellets at 100 yards.
mike
. I don't know man, I mean C'mon, what am I to think of you
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